John E Hovelsrud

[gj03842]

I am looking for information about the parents or siblings of John E. Hovelsrud, born 20 September 1848, probably in Veldre.

From the Galesville (Wisconsin) Republican, December 20, 1929:

Veldre, Hedemarken, Norway was the birthplace of John E. Hovelsrud. He was next to the youngest of nine children. Mrs. Oline Shirley, of La Crosse [Wisconsin], the youngest, is the sole survivor of that family. The boy's early education was received from Provost Berner at Ringsaker. He was confirmed in October, 1862, at Veldre church by Personel Kapalen Doderick Arup.

In his early youth he served as a private tutor in the community in which he was reared. His aptitude for teaching was marked even then.

In 1869, at the age of 21, Mr. Hovelsrud sailed for America. His voyage and journey from Norway to La Crosse occupied three weeks. A little later he was working on farms at Holmen [Wisconsin]. Farm work and logging occupied the time of the young schoolmaster four years. He was becoming well acquainted with people and life in western Wisconsin and adding to his stock of knowledge. In the year 1873 he entered Luther College at Decorah, Iowa and continued there through 1874 and 1875. . . .

Mr. Hovelsrud was married on Dec. 21, 1878, to Miss Syverine Linberg. Shortly afterward they settled on a farm in Beaver Creek [Trempealeau County, Wisconsin], where they resided until the husband retired a few years ago. Then they moved to Hegg, where the pioneer died on Nov. 30, 1929. He is survived by his aged widow and four children. Julius, the eldest son, is located at Crosby, N.D.; Ella, now Mrs. J.M. Brenengen, resides at Norge, Virginia; Hilda, a daughter, now Mrs. J.H. Tjerstad, lives on the home farm at Hegg; Herman, the youngest son, is engaged in the oil business at Richland Center.

There are fourteen grandchildren.


This might be him in 1865 census, living with the Lars Johanneson familY:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... felt=skjul

This might be him, leaving from Oslo in 1869:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... felt=skjul

I've looked in microfilmed church records from Ringsaker, but have not been able to find a birth or confirmation record.

Any help will be much appreciated. (I can read Norwegian but would embarrass myself trying to write it.)

David Rod

[dn12117]

Hi David.

This is Johns parents in Census 1865: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... 11243#ovre

Johns Christening:

Ringsaker Mini 8 1837 - 50 Card nr.2/14, christ.nr.142, page 65.

John, born 20/9 1848, christening: 3/12 1848 in Veldre Church
Even Haagensen and Johanne Eriksdatter Kosseie: Hsf - Husmandsfolk - Small farmers.
Goodparents: John Simensen Kosseie and wife, Christian Eriksen Skjerpeneie and wife, Johannes Ouensen Kosseie.

Konfirmasjon.

Ringsaker Mini 10 1861 - 69 card nr.6/16 Conf. nr.9, page 199.
Veldre Church 12/10 1862
John Kaaseie, born 20/9 1848 in Kaaseie.
Even Haakensen and Johanne Eriksdatter.
Vaccsinert: 17/12 1849
Karakter i Kristendomskundskab: Meget godt - verry good

By Sognepræst S.E. Berner. (Not as you wrote)

Evenstad is a smal farm under Koss farm in Veldre.

As you can see his mother came from Nes Hedmark - I belive he moved there first or at least took a name from there. Hovelsrud is a farm in Nes Hedmark.

I belive this is John in Census 1865: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... =2767#ovre

Emigration - it can be this one: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... =9702#ovre

but also this one: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... 14169#ovre

Haaveland can be written wrong also

So far I can help you for now

[dn12117]

Hi David.

On Family Search I found this: Oline christening 5/9 1852 - sister of John
Syverinde christening 20/12 1829 - altso sister of John

Her is his brother in Census 1875: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... =5274#ovre

I looked for his parents in census 1875, but could not find them

When Syverinde was born 22/11 1829 they lived in Rognlien as Inderster(Lived poor on other people) This is also in Veldre.

Marriage for Johns parents.

Ringsaker Mini 7 1826 - 37 Card nr.8/15 Marriage nr.49, Page 299

Veldre Church 16/10 1829

Even Haagensen, Ungkarl(Bachelor) and Inderst(Living on others), born in Herambseie(Farm in Ringsaker), now Allergodt(Farm in Veldre), 22 years old, Father: Haagen Olsen

Johanne Eriksdatter, Tjenestepige(Servant), born in Skindstadeie(I belive Skindstad is a farm in Nes), now in Kosseie(Koss/Kaas is a farm in Veldre), 19 years old, Father: Erik Jensen.

Bestmen: Mikel Eriksen Brendlien and Johannes Eriksen Ertmandshof.

All coments in () is my own...

[gj03842]

Mange tusen tak, Lillian! This is wonderful information that opens many new lines of inquiry for me.

For instance, the census listing you cite may also identify several of John's siblings: Erik, Mikkel, Agnethe, and Oline.

Then if the first emigration listing (http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... =9702#ovre) is the right one, it looks like John may have travelled with three young ladies: Kirsti Kaas, Agnette Kaas, and Helene Evensdatter. Given the connection you've pointed out between this family and the Kaas farm, perhaps Agnethe Evensdatter and Agnette Kaas are one and the same. And who then are Kirsti and Helene? More sisters? Cousins?

I'm inclined to think, in fact, that this is the right emigration listing (even though it says Haaveland instead of Hovelsrud) because the year matches what my newspaper article said (1869) and because the destination is identified as La Crosse, which is where John ended up.

So I have more exploring to do.

Again, many, many thanks for your efforts.

David

[dn12117]

Hi David.

This you mean?

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... =9702#ovre

I belive the two with Kaas name are from the farm. Hellene Evensdtr. can be a sister of John - I can try to find it out for you

I found this John traveling from Nes in 1870 because I think the one in census 1865 is him.
Can´t find him in Ringsaker in census 1865

[dn12117]

Hi David.

In this Census 1865 it is like this: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... 11243#ovre

First Johns parents, so an older brother Erik with his wife Ingeborg and their children Beate, Even and Juli(Julie). Mikkel, Agnethe and Oline are brother and sisters of John.

I got the Churchbooks for Ringsaker so I can look up their Christening for you if you want?

May be not before Sunday

[dn12117]

Hi again David.

John has a sister with name Helene born in 1840 so it could be her:

Ringsaker Mini 8 1837 - 50 Card nr.3/14 Christening nr.10, page 113.

Helene born 2/1, christening in veldre Church 26/1 1840.

Even Haagensen and wife Johanne Eriksdatter
Smal farmers in Stensrud. (Hsf. - Husmandsfolk)
Goodparents: Ole Olsen and Johanne Olsdatter Stensrud, Christian Simensen Skoleholderstuen and his wife., Børre Olsen Ottersrud.

So far so good - try to look her up in Census in USA.

Lykke til

[gj03842]

Thanks again, Lillian!

Do you think this "Johannes Evens." in the Ringsaker census for 1865 might be him?

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... felt=skjul

(#7947)

He's the right age, I believe.

Also, do you know what "Fdr" in "Yrke" (occupation) column means?

David

[dn12117]

Hi David.

You got to read all I give you if not it will be doble work

Johannes in the Census you advice to is not him, I belive more in this one: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... =2767#ovre

I gave you this one in my first answer

If you use 1865 - 18 = 1847. He is born 1848.


He uses Hovelsrud in USA. It is a farm in Nes Hedmark where Johns mother is born so I belive he was there in Census 1865. I do not say that she was born in this farm Hovelsrud, but it is posible. I have not Churchbooks from Nes Hedmark so you got to wait for Scannede in DA or perhaps somebody will find it for you if they read this

Fdr - Føderaadsfolk - it means the oldest people in the farm when the younger ones start using the farm. In this Census 1865 I belive it is wrong written. You have to think two years more or less in census 1865 about age - sometimes 4 years

You got short notes for "Yrke" full written in this links - but in Norwegian:

For Census 1865.

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/We ... 3&spraak=n

Click on the link under "Les meir" - Avkortingar nytta i teljinga

For census 1900.

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/We ... 5&spraak=n

Click on the link under "Les meir" - Avkortingar nytta i teljinga

If you do not have a Wordbook or do not find it on the Internett you got to tell me - then I can try to give you some translation later on

[dn12117]

Hi David.

This is Hellene Evensdtr. in Census 1865: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... 10880#ovre

Glestad farm is in Veldre.

[gj03842]

Thanks again, Lillian!

David

[dn15216]

Hi David!
John's brother Mikkel, was my great, great grandfather. He was married to Karen Semmingsdatter born september 21., 1841 in Tretten, Gudbrandsdal.
They had 8 children :
Pauline : born dec. 13, 1865 in Øyer, Gudbrandsdal
Johanne: born dec. 28., 1867 in Veldre (married to Olaf Kristiansen, and had 9 sons.
Syver : born 1870 in Veldre (died aug. 28.,1892 in a boat-accident)
Edevart : born 1872 in Veldre
Peder : born 1875 in Veldre
Syverine: born nov. 6., 1877 in Veldre (my great grandmother. Married Hans Olsen Molstad
and had 6 children)
Kristine : born 1880 in Veldre (married to Edvart Hansen in Veldre. I have found 2 children.
Mathias : born 1883 also in Veldre

Mikkel died sept. 23., 1902 of cancer. His wife Karen died march 7., 1917.
They had a small farm called Haga in Veldre.

When it comes to John and Mikkel's parents, i know very little about Even Haagensen, but more about Johanne Erichsdatter.
She was born june 27., 1810 Skinstad-eie In Nes by parents Erich Jensen (born aug. 17., 1788 at Lodvigen in Nes) and Marthe Syversdatter ( born june 28., 1789 at Skindstad-eie in Nes).
Erich and Marthe had several children, and i found 3 besides Johanne: Agnethe born 1811, Syver born? and Maria born 1814. (they all lived their lives on an island called Helgøya in Nes.)

Erich Jensen's parents was Jens Andersen and Anne Erichsdatter (born around 1755).
Marthe Syversdatter's parents was Syver Johannesen (born app. 1753), and Marthe Olsdatter (born app. 1755).

I hope there was something here to add to your research.
I would also like to have some of the information you can give me about Mikkel's siblings. That would be nice.

Hilde

[gj03842]

Hi, Hilde!

Yes, thank you, this is very interesting information and adds much I didn’t know.

John Hovelsrud was my wife’s great-grandfather. So you and she are distant cousins, I suppose.

Here is the link to the newspaper article I quoted from in my first post:
http://wisconsinhistory.org/wlhba/artic ... &mhd=&shd=

John was quite a distinguished fellow in his small corner of the world.

Most of what I know about his siblings I learned from Lillian Kristiansen (above), but I can repeat it here.

The newspaper article says he was the second youngest of nine children.

His oldest brother was probably named Haagen (since that was his paternal grandfather’s name), but I have not actually found any record of this person yet.

Then comes:
Syverinde, born 1829
Erik, born about 1829
Helene, born 2 January 1840
Mikkel (your great-great-grandfather), born about 1842
Agnethe, born about 1845
John, born 20 September 1848
Oline, born 1852

If the Kirsti Kaas who (I believe) traveled with John to America was his sister, she would probably come between Agnethe and John. And that would account for all nine children.

On 21 December 1878, John married Syverine Christiansdatter Lindberg (born 12 April 1857), who was also originally from Ringsaker. She came to America with her family at the age of 15.

John and Syverine lived in the North Beaver Creek area of Trempealeau County, Wisconsin, near the town of Ettrick, and had five children:
Even, the first born, who died in infancy.
Carl Julius, born 1881 and died 1943.
Ella J., born 1886 and died 1980. She married John Brenengan and lived in Norge, Virginia.
Hilda Amelia, born 1886 and died 1959. She married Julius Henry Tjerstad and was my wife’s paternal grandmother.
Herman

John died 30 September 1929. Syverine died 28 April 1936.

I have a photo of the Hovelsrud family, taken in 1910 or so, which I’d be happy to send to you if you’re interested.

Again thanks for writing. It was good to hear from you.

David