Hendrik J Jacobsen - member of lodge?

[Tore Louis Martin Syversen]

I am searching for more details regarding Hendrik Johan Jacobsen. Born in Bergen, Norway on April 13, 1856, He first left Bergen on June 4, 1880 traveling on Inman Line through presumably England to Chicago. He returned to Norway and then left again for Chicago from Bergen on February 18, 1885 on Cunard Line. Again he settled in Chicago. The plan was that his wife and children would join him later. However, he was reported killed in Chicago and his family never went to the US. We have not been able to find any details regarding his life in Chicago - including how he passed away. The attached picture was take in Chicago (year unknown) and the collar may indicate that he belonged to some kind society or union. I would be very happy if anyone couild help us unveil this mystery, e.g. what this collar represent.

[gj06100]

Hei Tore
The photo does not come up...can not see it.
What did Hendrik do as a job...and do you know how he spelled his name over here?

mvh
Patty

[Tore Louis Martin Syversen]

Dear Patty
Thank you for looking into my query. Sorry for the picture not showing. I have tried to reload it. He trained as a tailor in Norway, but we think he worked as a carpenter in Chicago. We do not know how he spelled his name in the US - it could be Henrik or Hendrik and Jacobsen or Jakobsen - but probably not Jakobson as the -son would be mainly for Swedish at that time.

[gj06100]

Hei igjen Tore

I found the listing in a Chicago City Directory 1887 for
Henry Jacobsen, carpenter
(sorry I can not put in the link)
Just a possible puzzle piece.
My husband looked at the photo..he does not know the "outfit" (sash/collar)...
What is at the top right on the sash (his left shoulder)..are those letters?

mvh
Patty

[Astrid Mollan]

Dette er en mulighet.

Name: Johan Jacobsen
Birth Year: abt 1854
Age: 35 Yr
Death Date: 24 Dec 1889
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
URL: http://www.ilsos.gov/isavital/...


Name: Johan Jacobsen
Birth Date: abt 1854
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 24 Dec 1889
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Cemetery Name: Skandinavian cemetery
Death Age: 35
Occupation: Laborer
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Male
Residence: Illinois
FHL Film Number: 1030946

[Tore Louis Martin Syversen]

Hi
Thank you. The letters on his left side is "WM" - and these letters does not have any meaning as we know toward his Norwegian heritage. Thus, I think it is related to a lodge or organization in Chicago.

[Tore Louis Martin Syversen]

Takk for svar - jeg tar med meg innspillet ditt videre

[Paul Johan Hals]

The letters on his left side is "WM" - and these letters does not have any meaning as we know toward his Norwegian heritage. Thus, I think it is related to a lodge or organization in Chicago.

The letters may refere to a lodge or a spesific position in a (spesific) lodge.

Mvh Paul

[gj06100]

Hei!
I wonder if he was part of a carpenter's union (organization)
There was a union organized in Chicago in 1881.
http://sections.chicagotribune.com/carp ... le=2735168

But I do not know if a "special" member would wear that kind of clothing as shown in the photo.

mvh
Patty

[Ola Morken]

Any memebr of a Masonic Lodge will know the meaning of the letters W M.

[Astrid Mollan]

Kan du ikke bare sende bildet til https://www.carpentersunion.org og spørre? Kanskje har de de gamle medlemslistene også.

[gj06100]

So is this a collar used by the Masons Freemasons?

mvh
Patty
I tried to find one like it using Google and Masonic regalia collar.
Nothing looks like the one in the photo

[Ola Morken]

You are right, it does not look like any Masonic Collar I know, but there are many different Lodges. The letters are used by most english spoken Masonic Lodges. It is a title of authority used by the (elected) head of a Masonic Lodge.

[gj21916]

mulig han var medlem av en avholdslosje, I.O.G.T. losje
link til lignende krage og betydning av bokstaver
https://digitaltmuseum.no/011025124035/ ... A%22NFM%22

Bokstavane som er sydd på står for dei ulike "Ombudsmenn" i losjen:

ØV= Øverste-Templar, VS= Vise-Templar, S=Sektretær, FS= Finans-Sekretær, S= Skattmester, K= Kapellan, M= Marsjal, D= Dørvokter, V=vakt, SV= vise-Sekretær, VM= Vise-Marsjal, FØT= Før-Øverste-Templar.

[gj06100]

Hei Grete
How does I.O.G.T. (lodge) translate paa engelsk...i ordene..
Knights Templar organization???

I found that a Knights Templar sash/collar is also called a baldric.
Templar sashes/baldrics had stars with nine points on it...


mvh
Patty

[gj21916]

hei Patty,

I.O.G.T.
International Organisation of Good Templars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internati ... d_Templars

avholdslosje Temperance movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperance_movement

Sons of Temperance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Temperance

https://reformproject.wikispaces.com/Te ... ton.Hecker

[gj06100]

Hei Tore,
I think you should send that photo to a public library in Chicago...tell them a little about Hendrik...esp that you think he was a carpenter ....etc...
They might be very interested in this photo too...perhaps they might add it to their collection/archives.
Site...
http://www.chipublib.org/locations/15/

email [email protected]

By the way do you have a record of his emigration from Norway?

mvh
Patty

[gj06100]

Hei Grete
Templars and the Temperance movement are different.
Temperance Movement had to do with stopping the sale of alcohol (liquor) in the USA.

mvh
Patty