Legacy oddity
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Legacy oddity
This concerns v5, but equally v4.
In my event locations, I abbreviate Australian States to NSW, Qld, WA,
SA, Vic, Tas, NT and ACT, so an entry might look like "Canberra ACT"
From various programs (FTW, PAF, GenBox etc etc) I export a GEDCOM,
then import it to Legacy.
This makes some of the States transfer incorrectly - NSW becomes Nsw, SA
becomes Sa, ACT becomes Act and NT becomes Nt. Oh, and NZ (for New
Zealand) becomes Nz. But WA stays WA!
This gives me a fair amount of work to do...which I'd rather not! Can
anyone suggest what I might do to correct this odd behaviour in Legacy.
Paul Blair
Canberra
In my event locations, I abbreviate Australian States to NSW, Qld, WA,
SA, Vic, Tas, NT and ACT, so an entry might look like "Canberra ACT"
From various programs (FTW, PAF, GenBox etc etc) I export a GEDCOM,
then import it to Legacy.
This makes some of the States transfer incorrectly - NSW becomes Nsw, SA
becomes Sa, ACT becomes Act and NT becomes Nt. Oh, and NZ (for New
Zealand) becomes Nz. But WA stays WA!
This gives me a fair amount of work to do...which I'd rather not! Can
anyone suggest what I might do to correct this odd behaviour in Legacy.
Paul Blair
Canberra
Re: Legacy oddity
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:37:39 GMT, Paul Blair <[email protected]>
wrote:
I hope you get a response. EUR, GER, FRA, etc. also reduce the second
and third letters to lower case in the location list. Surprisingly so
does LA to La???
I use my Navy rank with my name as a title prefix and CDR is
frequently changed to Cdr.
Hugh
wrote:
This concerns v5, but equally v4.
In my event locations, I abbreviate Australian States to NSW, Qld, WA,
SA, Vic, Tas, NT and ACT, so an entry might look like "Canberra ACT"
From various programs (FTW, PAF, GenBox etc etc) I export a GEDCOM,
then import it to Legacy.
This makes some of the States transfer incorrectly - NSW becomes Nsw, SA
becomes Sa, ACT becomes Act and NT becomes Nt. Oh, and NZ (for New
Zealand) becomes Nz. But WA stays WA!
This gives me a fair amount of work to do...which I'd rather not! Can
anyone suggest what I might do to correct this odd behaviour in Legacy.
Paul Blair
Canberra
I hope you get a response. EUR, GER, FRA, etc. also reduce the second
and third letters to lower case in the location list. Surprisingly so
does LA to La???
I use my Navy rank with my name as a title prefix and CDR is
frequently changed to Cdr.
Hugh
Re: Legacy oddity
J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
I might add that the GEDCOM is correct - all upper case, as appropriate.
Legacy also mangles O'Bree to O'bree, O'Reilly to O'reilly...
Paul Blair
Canberra ACT
Australia
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:37:39 GMT, Paul Blair <[email protected]
wrote:
This concerns v5, but equally v4.
In my event locations, I abbreviate Australian States to NSW, Qld, WA,
SA, Vic, Tas, NT and ACT, so an entry might look like "Canberra ACT"
From various programs (FTW, PAF, GenBox etc etc) I export a GEDCOM,
then import it to Legacy.
This makes some of the States transfer incorrectly - NSW becomes Nsw, SA
becomes Sa, ACT becomes Act and NT becomes Nt. Oh, and NZ (for New
Zealand) becomes Nz. But WA stays WA!
This gives me a fair amount of work to do...which I'd rather not! Can
anyone suggest what I might do to correct this odd behaviour in Legacy.
Paul Blair
Canberra
I hope you get a response. EUR, GER, FRA, etc. also reduce the second
and third letters to lower case in the location list. Surprisingly so
does LA to La???
I use my Navy rank with my name as a title prefix and CDR is
frequently changed to Cdr.
Hugh
I might add that the GEDCOM is correct - all upper case, as appropriate.
Legacy also mangles O'Bree to O'bree, O'Reilly to O'reilly...
Paul Blair
Canberra ACT
Australia
Re: Legacy oddity
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:35:18 GMT, Paul Blair <[email protected]>
wrote:
.... and O"Sullivan to O'sullivan. But i'll bet you knew I would say
that.
Hugh
wrote:
J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:37:39 GMT, Paul Blair <[email protected]
wrote:
This concerns v5, but equally v4.
In my event locations, I abbreviate Australian States to NSW, Qld, WA,
SA, Vic, Tas, NT and ACT, so an entry might look like "Canberra ACT"
From various programs (FTW, PAF, GenBox etc etc) I export a GEDCOM,
then import it to Legacy.
This makes some of the States transfer incorrectly - NSW becomes Nsw, SA
becomes Sa, ACT becomes Act and NT becomes Nt. Oh, and NZ (for New
Zealand) becomes Nz. But WA stays WA!
This gives me a fair amount of work to do...which I'd rather not! Can
anyone suggest what I might do to correct this odd behaviour in Legacy.
Paul Blair
Canberra
I hope you get a response. EUR, GER, FRA, etc. also reduce the second
and third letters to lower case in the location list. Surprisingly so
does LA to La???
I use my Navy rank with my name as a title prefix and CDR is
frequently changed to Cdr.
Hugh
I might add that the GEDCOM is correct - all upper case, as appropriate.
Legacy also mangles O'Bree to O'bree, O'Reilly to O'reilly...
Paul Blair
Canberra ACT
Australia
.... and O"Sullivan to O'sullivan. But i'll bet you knew I would say
that.

Hugh
Re: Legacy oddity
Paul Blair wrote:
I didn't have that problem when I did a gedcom import some weeks ago as the
resultant family file has the proper case for those fields. Just out of
curiosity: the Gedcom Import screen has a checkbox towards the lower left-hand
corner titled:"Format names and places (Intial caps, uppercase, etc). Do you
possibly not have that box checked?
Bob
J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:37:39 GMT, Paul Blair <[email protected]
wrote:
This concerns v5, but equally v4.
In my event locations, I abbreviate Australian States to NSW, Qld, WA,
SA, Vic, Tas, NT and ACT, so an entry might look like "Canberra ACT"
From various programs (FTW, PAF, GenBox etc etc) I export a GEDCOM,
then import it to Legacy.
This makes some of the States transfer incorrectly - NSW becomes Nsw, SA
becomes Sa, ACT becomes Act and NT becomes Nt. Oh, and NZ (for New
Zealand) becomes Nz. But WA stays WA!
This gives me a fair amount of work to do...which I'd rather not! Can
anyone suggest what I might do to correct this odd behaviour in Legacy.
Paul Blair
Canberra
I hope you get a response. EUR, GER, FRA, etc. also reduce the second
and third letters to lower case in the location list. Surprisingly so
does LA to La???
I use my Navy rank with my name as a title prefix and CDR is
frequently changed to Cdr.
Hugh
I might add that the GEDCOM is correct - all upper case, as appropriate.
Legacy also mangles O'Bree to O'bree, O'Reilly to O'reilly...
I didn't have that problem when I did a gedcom import some weeks ago as the
resultant family file has the proper case for those fields. Just out of
curiosity: the Gedcom Import screen has a checkbox towards the lower left-hand
corner titled:"Format names and places (Intial caps, uppercase, etc). Do you
possibly not have that box checked?
Bob
Re: Legacy oddity
[email protected] (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
Paul, bet when you imported the gedcom, you selected the option on the
Gedcom Import window to "Format names and places". That options
formats those items as you have defined them in Options > Customize >
Data Format under "Letter Case of Given Names and Locations" and
"Letter Case of Surnames". The default for those is "Inital Caps".
For the import, if you want to keep the records the way they are in the
gedcom, don't select "Format names and places".
Hugh, go to Options > Customize > Data Format and under both "Letter
Case of Given Names and Locations" and "Letter Case of Surnames",
select "Don't change what I enter". That way you won't lose the
O'Sullivan and the LA.
Ok, how to fix this now........ You need to go to the Master Location
List and edit the location locations in that list and the Master
Surname List and edit the surnames there.
And since this official advice, I'll use my official sig line <rbg>
Thanks for using Legacy.
Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[email protected]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
We are changing the world of genealogy!
news:[email protected]:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:35:18 GMT, Paul Blair <[email protected]
wrote:
J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:37:39 GMT, Paul Blair <[email protected]
wrote:
This concerns v5, but equally v4.
In my event locations, I abbreviate Australian States to NSW, Qld,
WA, SA, Vic, Tas, NT and ACT, so an entry might look like
"Canberra ACT"
From various programs (FTW, PAF, GenBox etc etc) I export a
GEDCOM, then import it to Legacy.
This makes some of the States transfer incorrectly - NSW becomes
Nsw, SA becomes Sa, ACT becomes Act and NT becomes Nt. Oh, and NZ
(for New Zealand) becomes Nz. But WA stays WA!
This gives me a fair amount of work to do...which I'd rather not!
Can anyone suggest what I might do to correct this odd behaviour
in Legacy.
Paul Blair
Canberra
I hope you get a response. EUR, GER, FRA, etc. also reduce the
second and third letters to lower case in the location list.
Surprisingly so does LA to La???
I use my Navy rank with my name as a title prefix and CDR is
frequently changed to Cdr.
Hugh
I might add that the GEDCOM is correct - all upper case, as
appropriate.
Legacy also mangles O'Bree to O'bree, O'Reilly to O'reilly...
Paul Blair
Canberra ACT
Australia
... and O"Sullivan to O'sullivan. But i'll bet you knew I would say
that.
Hugh
Paul, bet when you imported the gedcom, you selected the option on the
Gedcom Import window to "Format names and places". That options
formats those items as you have defined them in Options > Customize >
Data Format under "Letter Case of Given Names and Locations" and
"Letter Case of Surnames". The default for those is "Inital Caps".
For the import, if you want to keep the records the way they are in the
gedcom, don't select "Format names and places".
Hugh, go to Options > Customize > Data Format and under both "Letter
Case of Given Names and Locations" and "Letter Case of Surnames",
select "Don't change what I enter". That way you won't lose the
O'Sullivan and the LA.
Ok, how to fix this now........ You need to go to the Master Location
List and edit the location locations in that list and the Master
Surname List and edit the surnames there.
And since this official advice, I'll use my official sig line <rbg>
Thanks for using Legacy.
Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[email protected]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
We are changing the world of genealogy!
Re: Legacy oddity
Hi Paul,
Check your customise settings in Legacy - go to
OPTIONS / CUSTOMISE / DATA FORMAT
I think the default for Letter Case of Given Names and Locations is "Initial
Caps". Change this to "Don't change what I enter" before importing and it
may be OK then.
Regards ....... Susie Z
"Paul Blair" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Check your customise settings in Legacy - go to
OPTIONS / CUSTOMISE / DATA FORMAT
I think the default for Letter Case of Given Names and Locations is "Initial
Caps". Change this to "Don't change what I enter" before importing and it
may be OK then.
Regards ....... Susie Z
"Paul Blair" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
This concerns v5, but equally v4.
In my event locations, I abbreviate Australian States to NSW, Qld, WA,
SA, Vic, Tas, NT and ACT, so an entry might look like "Canberra ACT"
From various programs (FTW, PAF, GenBox etc etc) I export a GEDCOM,
then import it to Legacy.
This makes some of the States transfer incorrectly - NSW becomes Nsw, SA
becomes Sa, ACT becomes Act and NT becomes Nt. Oh, and NZ (for New
Zealand) becomes Nz. But WA stays WA!
This gives me a fair amount of work to do...which I'd rather not! Can
anyone suggest what I might do to correct this odd behaviour in Legacy.
Paul Blair
Canberra
Re: Legacy oddity
Sherry wrote:
lowest box is a bit counter-intuitive!
I usually go to MS Access to edit stuff anyway...it's quicker.
Paul Blair
Canberra Act...sorry ACT
[email protected] (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:35:18 GMT, Paul Blair <[email protected]
wrote:
J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:37:39 GMT, Paul Blair <[email protected]
wrote:
This concerns v5, but equally v4.
In my event locations, I abbreviate Australian States to NSW, Qld,
WA, SA, Vic, Tas, NT and ACT, so an entry might look like
"Canberra ACT"
From various programs (FTW, PAF, GenBox etc etc) I export a
GEDCOM, then import it to Legacy.
This makes some of the States transfer incorrectly - NSW becomes
Nsw, SA becomes Sa, ACT becomes Act and NT becomes Nt. Oh, and NZ
(for New Zealand) becomes Nz. But WA stays WA!
This gives me a fair amount of work to do...which I'd rather not!
Can anyone suggest what I might do to correct this odd behaviour
in Legacy.
Paul Blair
Canberra
I hope you get a response. EUR, GER, FRA, etc. also reduce the
second and third letters to lower case in the location list.
Surprisingly so does LA to La???
I use my Navy rank with my name as a title prefix and CDR is
frequently changed to Cdr.
Hugh
I might add that the GEDCOM is correct - all upper case, as
appropriate.
Legacy also mangles O'Bree to O'bree, O'Reilly to O'reilly...
Paul Blair
Canberra ACT
Australia
... and O"Sullivan to O'sullivan. But i'll bet you knew I would say
that.
Hugh
Paul, bet when you imported the gedcom, you selected the option on the
Gedcom Import window to "Format names and places". That options
formats those items as you have defined them in Options > Customize
Data Format under "Letter Case of Given Names and Locations" and
"Letter Case of Surnames". The default for those is "Inital Caps".
For the import, if you want to keep the records the way they are in the
gedcom, don't select "Format names and places".
Hugh, go to Options > Customize > Data Format and under both "Letter
Case of Given Names and Locations" and "Letter Case of Surnames",
select "Don't change what I enter". That way you won't lose the
O'Sullivan and the LA.
Ok, how to fix this now........ You need to go to the Master Location
List and edit the location locations in that list and the Master
Surname List and edit the surnames there.
And since this official advice, I'll use my official sig line <rbg
Thanks for using Legacy.
Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[email protected]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
We are changing the world of genealogy!
Thanks, Sherry. I followed the advice given to Hugh. Unticking the
lowest box is a bit counter-intuitive!
I usually go to MS Access to edit stuff anyway...it's quicker.
Paul Blair
Canberra Act...sorry ACT
Re: Legacy oddity
On 21 Nov 2004 03:14:09 GMT, Sherry <[email protected]> wrote:
Thank you, Sherry. You may now return to the phone booth and remove
the Supergirl suit!
I had previously changed the latter but not the former. I'm not sure
how the Letter Case of Surnames got changed back. It will forever
remain one of life's mysteries.
My brain was not clicking when I looked at the first correction some
time ago and it never occurred to me that was what was causing my
problem. Je suis El Stupido.
Yes, I remember doing that before! Now I have to enter everything
right. C'est la vie.
You go girl!
Hugh
Hugh, go to Options > Customize > Data Format and under both "Letter
Case of Given Names and Locations" and "Letter Case of Surnames",
select "Don't change what I enter". That way you won't lose the
O'Sullivan and the LA.
Thank you, Sherry. You may now return to the phone booth and remove
the Supergirl suit!

I had previously changed the latter but not the former. I'm not sure
how the Letter Case of Surnames got changed back. It will forever
remain one of life's mysteries.
My brain was not clicking when I looked at the first correction some
time ago and it never occurred to me that was what was causing my
problem. Je suis El Stupido.
Ok, how to fix this now........ You need to go to the Master Location
List and edit the location locations in that list and the Master
Surname List and edit the surnames there.
Yes, I remember doing that before! Now I have to enter everything
right. C'est la vie.
And since this official advice, I'll use my official sig line <rbg
Thanks for using Legacy.
Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[email protected]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
We are changing the world of genealogy!
You go girl!
Hugh
Re: Legacy oddity
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:37:39 GMT, Paul Blair <[email protected]> wrote:
Legacy gives options for a full place name, and one with abrviations.
In the full place name I put "New South Wales", in the abreviated one I put
"NSW".
The program I usually import from does not have room for full place names,
however, so I usually abreviate it as "Sydney, NSW" (before 1901) or "Sydney,
NSW, AUS" (after 1900).
When I import them, I use Legacy's "merge placenames" feature" to merge these
with my existing standardised placenames.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
This concerns v5, but equally v4.
In my event locations, I abbreviate Australian States to NSW, Qld, WA,
SA, Vic, Tas, NT and ACT, so an entry might look like "Canberra ACT"
From various programs (FTW, PAF, GenBox etc etc) I export a GEDCOM,
then import it to Legacy.
This makes some of the States transfer incorrectly - NSW becomes Nsw, SA
becomes Sa, ACT becomes Act and NT becomes Nt. Oh, and NZ (for New
Zealand) becomes Nz. But WA stays WA!
This gives me a fair amount of work to do...which I'd rather not! Can
anyone suggest what I might do to correct this odd behaviour in Legacy.
Legacy gives options for a full place name, and one with abrviations.
In the full place name I put "New South Wales", in the abreviated one I put
"NSW".
The program I usually import from does not have room for full place names,
however, so I usually abreviate it as "Sydney, NSW" (before 1901) or "Sydney,
NSW, AUS" (after 1900).
When I import them, I use Legacy's "merge placenames" feature" to merge these
with my existing standardised placenames.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk