Hans Eliasen Bakke

[gj08048]

Hei

I am trying to find the parents of Hans Eliassen Bakke.

He is married to Anne Christensdr i 1786 Eidsberg #14klikk her

Here he is in the 1801 censusklikk her

Eidsberg farm hist. II, p. 75 (about Brandsrud):
"Hans Eliassen Bache, d. 1837 in Høland, m. t. Anne Kristensdatter Brandsrud, b. 1762"
H.E.B. had obtained 1/2 Brandsrud from his brother-in-law.
Farm hist. mentions new farmers at Brandsrud after H.E.B. moved to Høland ca. 1810.

I have found a Hans Bakke in Høland which I think is him. Dødt 3 Mar 1837 #39 klikk her

This is where the mystery starts.

There is a Hans Eliassen born 14 Aug 1759 Hjelmbye, Sandar, Vestfoldklikk her

His sister Ane Eliasdr born 20 Jan 1765 Hjelmbyeklikk her

This family moved from Sandar to Tjømøe between 1770 and 1774.
Hans was confirmed Mai 1776 Barkevigen
klikk her

Anne Eliasdr was confirmed Oct 1781 Barkevigen
klikk her

There is an Anne SOPHIE Eliasdr married 21 Jan 1808 in Stavern to a Halvor Andersen. One of the witnesses is named Hans Bakke!!klikk her

Also when Anne's son Anders is christened 25 Jun 1815 there is also a Hans Bagge? as a witnessklikk her

I do not know if Ane Eliasdr is the same Anne SOPHIE Eliasdr but another sister, Else Eliasdr, has a daughter named Anne Sophie Olsdr born 19 Oct 1807 Nesodden # 15 klikk her

I am sorry if this is hard to follow, and I appreciate anyone who takes the time to read this.
Can someone tell me if this is the right family? Is this my Hans Eliassen Bakke? Is there any information in the farm histories on this family? If this is the right family I would appreciate any other information you might have. I already know Elias Gun?ersen dødt 23 Dec 1810.

Tusen Takk
Eric C
Mvh

[gj00026]

Hans Eliassen, born August 14th 1759 at Hjelmby, died at sea with three other men November 4th 1776. This according to the churchbook, left page, bottom of right column (at the end of the year).

[gj08048]

Tusen Takk Kristian

Men hvem er Anne Sophie Eliasdr fordi jeg synes henne er Hans Bakke's søster. Beklage min Norsk er ikke bra.

But who is Anne Sophie Eliasdr? I think she is Hans Bakke's sister.

Takk
Eric C
Mvh

[gj00026]

Don't make to much out of similarities between names. The Hans Bakke or Bagge in Stavern is definitively not identical with Hans Eliassen Bakke in Eidsberg/Høland.

Anne Sofia Eliasdatter in Stavern is not identical with Anne Eliasdatter from Hjelmby, as she would have been 50 years and unlikely to bear a child in 1815.

Moreover, Else Eliasdatter at Nesodden was not the sister of Hans Eliassen Hjelmby/Barkevik, as his sister Else Eliasdatter died at Tallakshavn in Sandar 1796.

Hans Eliassen Bakke in Eidsberg/Høland is said to be 35 years of age in 1801, thus born somewhere around 1766. I believe that he may have been born and/or raised at a farm called Bakke, as he has added Bakke as a kind of family name, not influenced by his place of living. Family names was not common among farmers, but Hans was a kvartermester (one of the lower ranks) in the cavallery, which probably is the reason why he kept adding Bakke to his patronymic.

[gj08048]

Tusen takk for svar Kristian

Back to the drawing board.

Eric C
Mvh

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

You can try looking for him in these parishes in Østfold and Akershus counties:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/We ... namn=f1801

On the other hand - he could come from another farm named Bakke in another county!

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

The link doesn't work - should be:
County district Parish Local parish Gard/hus Prestegjeldnr
121 Smaalehnene Idde Idde Bache Gaard 0117
197 Smaalehnene Idde Idde Bache Ødegaard 0117
267 Smaalehnene Berg Bergs Hoved Sogn Bakke, Hp: 0116
604 Smaalehnene Skieberg Skieberg Bache 0115
2502 Smaalehnene Rachestad Rachestad Bakke 0128
4935 Aggershuus Ascher Ascher Bakke 0220

[gj08048]

Takk Jon-Erik

It is the unknown age which makes it so difficult. In the census it implies his birth year is 1766, but his wife is the same age and she was born in 1762. There is a candidate in Akershus født 21 July 1763 klikk her

In the death record he is said to be 80 years old when he died in 1837. So somewhere between 1757 and 1766. Married in 1786 makes me think the birthdate should be closer to 1760.

I had not looked in Berg, Skieberg, or Idde though. I will look there as well.

Edit; I just found a second marriage for Hans Eliassen #37 1817 Høland, Akershusklikk her
His age is listed as 62 which would put his birth about 1756?
I see he isn't using the Bakke name here, but later at the birth of a child Berent Peder Dec 1821 #15 he isklikk her

Now the birthday is almost for sure 1755/56. I had never considered he could be that old.

Takk
Eric C
Mvh

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

You should be aware of the fact that Smaalenene is now called= Østfold county.
The parishes are now written Idd and Skjeberg.

[gj08048]

Takk Jon-Erik

I just found a confirmation record for another child of the second marriage Anne Elisabet Hansdr født 4 Dec 1817 and confirmed Oct 1833 at Bakker? #12 klikk her

Takk
Eric C
Mvh

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

He was still hanging on to Bakke as family name, but they lived at the Ilebek farm in 1833.