Confusing entry.

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Confusing entry.

Legg inn av gj08979 » 15. juni 2009 kl. 22.02

Hilmar Eriksen's book of 1962 describes the children of Hans Olai Mikkelsen and Erika Pedersdatter as being 15 in number 5 adopted.

One of the real sons was Magnus Bertin Hansen with this entry

h) Magnus Bertin Hansen f.1874 reiste til sjos (went to sea) , dod i England. Enke (widow)Mikol Christoffersdtr f.1841.

Does this mean he was married to someone thirty years older - this is very odd.

Rob.

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Legg inn av gj05702 » 16. juni 2009 kl. 12.20

Hi :)

I took a fast look in FT 1875, and some churchbooks for Ibestad.

In FT 1875 Mikol is listed as a widow.

Mikol Christoffersdatter b.1841 Ibestad b 1 1 widow
Christianna Olsdatter b.1873 Ibestad her daughter

Christianas father is Ole Bertin Olsen b. 1847

Oct 6 1871 Mikol marries Ole Bertin (Bertinus?) Olsen

Oct 19 1876 Mikol marries Kornelius Hansen, Ibestad church

FT 1875

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCen ... =4938#ovre

Familysearch

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/ ... esults.asp

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Legg inn av gj05702 » 16. juni 2009 kl. 12.49

I will look and see if I can find Magnus Bertin Hansen somewere. Does the book say when he left norway with the boat?

Thomas

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Legg inn av gj05702 » 16. juni 2009 kl. 14.11

Mikol Andrea Christoffersens birth 1941 Ibestad

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-79

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Legg inn av gj05702 » 16. juni 2009 kl. 14.22

I dont think that she was married to Magnus Bertin Hansen....


Mikol Andrea Kristoffersdatter
b. 1841, d. 1914


Mikol Andrea Kristoffersdatter ble født i 1841 i Breivoll, Ibestad, Troms. Hun var datter av Kristoffer Hanssen og Kristianna Jakobsdatter.

Mikol Andrea Kristoffersdatter giftet seg med Ole Bertin Olsen i 1871 i Skog, Ibestad, Troms.1

Mikol Andrea Kristoffersdatter giftet seg med Kornelius Hanssen, sønn av Hans Jakob Jenssen og Maren Kirstina Korneliusdatter, i 1876 i Ånstad, Ibestad, Troms.2

Mikol Andrea Kristoffersdatter døde i 1914.

Barn av Mikol Andrea Kristoffersdatter og Ole Bertin Olsen

Kristiane Karoline Jondine Olsdatter f. 1873

Barn av Mikol Andrea Kristoffersdatter og Kornelius Hanssen

Ottilie Bertine Lovise Korneliusdatter+ f. 1878
Hanna Mathilde Korneliusdatter f. 1880, d. 1884
Hans Kristian Martin Korneliussen f. 1884, d. 1889

Sitater
[S30] Tore Meyer, Astafjord Bygdebok, Fam. 4126.
[S30] Tore Meyer, Astafjord Bygdebok, Fam. 2551.

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Legg inn av gj08979 » 17. juni 2009 kl. 22.17

Hi, Thankyou for your message.

I still find this very confusing. The text implies that Magnus left a widow which is strange.

Further down it says,

Enke Mikol Christoffersdtr f.1841

It then lists the last child of Hans and Erikka , Marie

i)Marie g i Bergen med Frederick Joachimsen - this is correct .


Fosterdtr. Christianna Olsdtr f. 1873 Brosonn Ole Hansen, f i Torsken sogn 1868.

Hans Olai's kone konfirmerte 15 barn.

There were 10 natural children then , two died, Five fostered (Adolf Klevstad, Olivia Johannesen, Christianna, Ole and ??

This is one of the biggest families in Astafjord!!

Rob.

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Legg inn av Åse Kvitle Kristiansen » 17. juni 2009 kl. 22.55

Hilmar Eriksen did a great job collecting information for his two books, but he would draw conclusions and make guesses, and quite a few were wrong. This is probably one of his wrong conclusions. If you check church registers you will most likely not be able to find a marriage between Mikol and Magnus Bertin simply because there never was a marriage between these two.

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Legg inn av gj08979 » 17. juni 2009 kl. 23.00

Some of the information is very good. The only thing I disagree with is the part I need most concerning Hans and Erikka namely that Magnus is alledged to have had a widow.

He did have a widow in Wales called Margaret Anne or Anne Margaret in Norway. I don't know where his info came from?? Who did he ask?? Where did he go??

It's very difficult coming from England to know where this story came from - it almost certainly didn't come from family.

Rob.

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Legg inn av gj08979 » 18. juni 2009 kl. 0.58

The book does not say when Magnus left for England. He did military service 1896-7 but is difficult to trace afterwards. As a rule he is difficult to pin down.

Rob.

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