I am looking for information on the Bratrud farm for a distant relative. In the 1865 census at Bratrud lives Harald Olsen, 10 son of Ole Olsen (~1828) and Toren Olsdatter. Harald left Norway in 1879 or 1880. He married Kari Alfsdatter from Lestrudlien whose parents are Alf Alfsen (~1827) and Kari Iversdatter (~1833).
I am having difficulty finding the correct baptism for all. If there is any information that might be in the bygdeboks or someone can direct me to ancestors and possible years of birth or marriage, it would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely
David Vinge
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Moderator: MOD_Oppland
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Hi,
Here is the link to the 1865 Census
http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=3&filnamn=f60540&gardpostnr=202&merk=202#ovre
Here is Haralds baptism, no 50:
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1857, side 23.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-27
…I’m on my way out, but I guess you’ll find more information regarding this family in the Sør Aurdal/Bagn parish
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Here is the link to the 1865 Census
http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=3&filnamn=f60540&gardpostnr=202&merk=202#ovre
Here is Haralds baptism, no 50:
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1857, side 23.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-27
…I’m on my way out, but I guess you’ll find more information regarding this family in the Sør Aurdal/Bagn parish
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Thanks. I have the baptisms of Harald and Kari but am having difficulty with finding the correct baptism for Harald's father, Ole Olsen. According to the 1865 census, he would be 38 on his next birthday which makes 1828 but at his marriage in 1850 he is 23 which makes 1827. In those years there are many Oles born to Ole Olsens (from marriage record) but I don't know who his mother is so can't tell. Also I don't remember seeing any Ole that was born at Bratrud but they could have moved.
Is there a bygdebok of Sor Aurdal?
Thanks for your time and efforts.
David
Is there a bygdebok of Sor Aurdal?
Thanks for your time and efforts.
David
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Hi,
There are bygdebøker of Sør Aurdal and these two should cover Bagn:
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band B
Kyrkjebjørgo, Øystre Bagn, Leirskogen, Dølve and Hølera. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1988. 743 p
Band = Volume
There are two additional volumes of Sør Aurdal, volume E and d both edited by Ivar Aars.
Valdres Historical Association, the website is bilingual
http://www.valdreshistorielag.no/index.htm
I guess there are quite a few Ole Olsen to choose from so, I hope there is some additional information to be found in the bygdebok.
Have a look at the Norwegian naming tradition and se if you are able to figure out what is most likely to be Ole Olsen’s mother’s name. Another tedious task is to look trough all the witnesses/sponsors to the baptism of Ole and Tøren’s children, the grandmother might be one of the witnesses/sponsors.
This is an article regarding naming tradition I’ve previously translated:
Norwegian naming traditions
Previously it was very common to name call the children after family members. If the tendency is as visible to day it is hard to tell due to the fact that the statistic is not that good in this department. However, the tendency shows that there has been a substantial decrease in this tradition over the past centennial. Before 1900 up to 60 % of the boys and 50 % of the girls where named after their grandparents and 20-30% named after their great grandparents. Today the numbers are down to 10-15 % of all newborn are named after their grandparents and less are named after their great grandparents. On the other hand has the naming after uncles and aunts has increased a little, in the old tradition shouldn’t mom and dad’s siblings name be used, unless if they had the same name as the child’s grandparents or great grandparents.
This goes for naming the exact name. Name calling with names that are similar or just start with the same letter are more common today than 100-150 years ago, at least regarding naming after its parents, something that was unthinkable in the 19th century.
At that time they had strict rules that were common in most places in the country.
1st son should be name after the paternal grandfather and the 2nd son after the maternal grandfather and the 3rd after one of the great grandparents and eventually the 4th, 5th, 6th after the other g. grandparents. The 1st girl should be named after her paternal grandmother and the 2nd girl after her maternal grandmother and then the next girls will be named after their g. grandparents. However, there is one special variation that might occur, the girl that the parents meant should be the last child they get was named after its mother, superstition would have it that if they named the child after the mother they would not have more children.
Reason fro name calling
One have to go a long way back in time to find that superstition were the background for these traditions. However, for centuries the believe wasthat the ancestors qualities was transferred to the child if it was name called, that only goes for the good qualities, those qualities that “stayed behind” after the deceased. Still further back in time there was a perception that the deceased would be offended if no one was named after them and they would harm the baby. At that time there was an illness fatally to newborn called “love” which according to Old Norwegian folk tale was due to angry ancestors not being name called. Later on the name calling was seen as one way honoring the deceased ancestors or if they were still a live a thank you for what they meant and have given to the next generations (and maybe to ensure that the grandparents would contribute more to the grandchild’s future)
Today these are probably the main reasons for name calling the children after grandparents and g. grandparents.
Another phenomenon from the early the 19th and early 20th century is that if one child dies young, the next child of same sex will get the same name. Sometimes a newborn would be named after a newly decease family member who had died at the time the baby was born. Only then naming after uncles and aunts was acceptable. Another funny tradition is if a widower got a new wife, the first daughter would be named after his previous wife. The same if a widow got married, the first son would be named after her previous husband.
It was only in the early 20th century that boys could be name called after their grandmothers or great grandmothers. For instance Karl was named after Klara and Andor after Anne. Girls on the other hand got male names and the ending –ine or –a like: Hansine, Jensine, Olava. That was usually younger daughters who were named after grandfathers and great grandfathers if it looked like they would not get any sons.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
There are bygdebøker of Sør Aurdal and these two should cover Bagn:
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band B
Kyrkjebjørgo, Øystre Bagn, Leirskogen, Dølve and Hølera. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1988. 743 p
Band = Volume
There are two additional volumes of Sør Aurdal, volume E and d both edited by Ivar Aars.
Valdres Historical Association, the website is bilingual
http://www.valdreshistorielag.no/index.htm
I guess there are quite a few Ole Olsen to choose from so, I hope there is some additional information to be found in the bygdebok.
Have a look at the Norwegian naming tradition and se if you are able to figure out what is most likely to be Ole Olsen’s mother’s name. Another tedious task is to look trough all the witnesses/sponsors to the baptism of Ole and Tøren’s children, the grandmother might be one of the witnesses/sponsors.
This is an article regarding naming tradition I’ve previously translated:
Norwegian naming traditions
Previously it was very common to name call the children after family members. If the tendency is as visible to day it is hard to tell due to the fact that the statistic is not that good in this department. However, the tendency shows that there has been a substantial decrease in this tradition over the past centennial. Before 1900 up to 60 % of the boys and 50 % of the girls where named after their grandparents and 20-30% named after their great grandparents. Today the numbers are down to 10-15 % of all newborn are named after their grandparents and less are named after their great grandparents. On the other hand has the naming after uncles and aunts has increased a little, in the old tradition shouldn’t mom and dad’s siblings name be used, unless if they had the same name as the child’s grandparents or great grandparents.
This goes for naming the exact name. Name calling with names that are similar or just start with the same letter are more common today than 100-150 years ago, at least regarding naming after its parents, something that was unthinkable in the 19th century.
At that time they had strict rules that were common in most places in the country.
1st son should be name after the paternal grandfather and the 2nd son after the maternal grandfather and the 3rd after one of the great grandparents and eventually the 4th, 5th, 6th after the other g. grandparents. The 1st girl should be named after her paternal grandmother and the 2nd girl after her maternal grandmother and then the next girls will be named after their g. grandparents. However, there is one special variation that might occur, the girl that the parents meant should be the last child they get was named after its mother, superstition would have it that if they named the child after the mother they would not have more children.
Reason fro name calling
One have to go a long way back in time to find that superstition were the background for these traditions. However, for centuries the believe wasthat the ancestors qualities was transferred to the child if it was name called, that only goes for the good qualities, those qualities that “stayed behind” after the deceased. Still further back in time there was a perception that the deceased would be offended if no one was named after them and they would harm the baby. At that time there was an illness fatally to newborn called “love” which according to Old Norwegian folk tale was due to angry ancestors not being name called. Later on the name calling was seen as one way honoring the deceased ancestors or if they were still a live a thank you for what they meant and have given to the next generations (and maybe to ensure that the grandparents would contribute more to the grandchild’s future)
Today these are probably the main reasons for name calling the children after grandparents and g. grandparents.
Another phenomenon from the early the 19th and early 20th century is that if one child dies young, the next child of same sex will get the same name. Sometimes a newborn would be named after a newly decease family member who had died at the time the baby was born. Only then naming after uncles and aunts was acceptable. Another funny tradition is if a widower got a new wife, the first daughter would be named after his previous wife. The same if a widow got married, the first son would be named after her previous husband.
It was only in the early 20th century that boys could be name called after their grandmothers or great grandmothers. For instance Karl was named after Klara and Andor after Anne. Girls on the other hand got male names and the ending –ine or –a like: Hansine, Jensine, Olava. That was usually younger daughters who were named after grandfathers and great grandfathers if it looked like they would not get any sons.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Thanks so much for the information and translation. I had read and learned from my family's ancestry about the naming practices but there were a few that I didn't know about.
I will try to find out how to get a hold of the bygdeboks.
I will try to find out how to get a hold of the bygdeboks.
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Hi,
You could try your local library to se if they could get hold of them via interlibrary loan. If not we’ll just have to hope someone drop’s inn on this thread that happened to have a copy…
…if I got time I’ll check with my local library they should have a copy but not sure if it’s available.
Do you have the names of Harald’s siblings? I just found two on FS and then there is one more on the 1865 census.
In addition to Harald there is two named Ole one born in 1851 and the other in 1853.
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1851, side 7.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-11
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1853, side 13.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-17
Regards,
Arna
You could try your local library to se if they could get hold of them via interlibrary loan. If not we’ll just have to hope someone drop’s inn on this thread that happened to have a copy…
…if I got time I’ll check with my local library they should have a copy but not sure if it’s available.
Do you have the names of Harald’s siblings? I just found two on FS and then there is one more on the 1865 census.
In addition to Harald there is two named Ole one born in 1851 and the other in 1853.
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1851, side 7.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-11
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1853, side 13.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-17
Regards,
Arna
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Hi,
I`ve had a look at the children of Ole Olsen and Tøren Haraldsdatter.
Ole, 1851 named after his paternal grandfather
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1851, side 7.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-11
Ole, 1853, named after his dead, older brother
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1853, side 13.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-17
Harald, 1857, named after his maternal grandfather
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1857, side 23.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid%20=ny&idx_side=-27
Anne, 1859, named after her paternal grandmother???
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1859, side 34.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-38
Anne, 1863
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1863, side 44.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-48
Ole Andreas, 1865, funny with two Ole in the family…
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1865, side 53.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-57
Mikkel, 1868
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1869, side 65.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-69
Knut, 1872
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1872, side 74.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-79
If the children are named according to Norwegian naming tradition Ole Olsen mother’s name might be Anne. Does that match any of the Ole Olsen’s you have already found?
Regards,
Arna Kristin
I`ve had a look at the children of Ole Olsen and Tøren Haraldsdatter.
Ole, 1851 named after his paternal grandfather
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1851, side 7.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-11
Ole, 1853, named after his dead, older brother
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1853, side 13.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-17
Harald, 1857, named after his maternal grandfather
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1857, side 23.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid%20=ny&idx_side=-27
Anne, 1859, named after her paternal grandmother???
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1859, side 34.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-38
Anne, 1863
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1863, side 44.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-48
Ole Andreas, 1865, funny with two Ole in the family…
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1865, side 53.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-57
Mikkel, 1868
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1869, side 65.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-69
Knut, 1872
Oppland fylke, Bagn i Sør-Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1849-1876), Fødte og døpte 1872, side 74.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8990&idx_id=8990&uid=ny&idx_side=-79
If the children are named according to Norwegian naming tradition Ole Olsen mother’s name might be Anne. Does that match any of the Ole Olsen’s you have already found?
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Hi,
I got he bygdebøker from the library today. Translating these books are rather time consuming so I’ll add bits and pieces as I manage to finish them.
I started out with the Bratterud farm.
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Øvre Bratterud bnr. 3, page 497
Kristafer Vøll sold the farm in 1806 at the price of 1500 riksdaler to Ola Olson Øvre Sørflate born 1776 died 1860. 1st time married 1806 to Eli Tåmåsdotter Skar born 1785, died 1809.
The division of the property following Eli’s death in 1809 the gross property was 1032 riksdaler and the net property 515 riksdaler.
Children of Olse Olsen a nd Eli Tåmåsdotter:
1. Astrid, born 1807, uses the farm after her younger brother
2. Ola, born 1808, died 126, the next user
Ola Olson, born 1776, 2nd time married in 1810 to Siri Larsdotter Ølmhus, Søre Lundatn 50/8, born 1770 died 1825. The division of the property following Siri’s death in 1825 the gross property was 803 riksdaler and the net property 561 riksdaler.
Child of Ola Olsen and Siri Larsdotter:
1. Eli, born 1812 married Ola Arneson Klauvrud
Ola Oson, born 1776, 3rd time married in 1826 to Ingrid Knudsdotter Nedrebøen, Hølersetre 53/2, born 1775 died 1859
In 1822 Ola Olson exchanged property and got hold of the mountain dairy farm (seter) Erstadrødninger a sub farm of Erstad in change of Vøllsrødningen a sub farm of Bratterud.
In 1825 Ola Olson sold the farm to his son Ola Olson born 1808 but he still wanted to run the farm himself. The sale included all the inventory in the house: 3 cupboards, 1 dining table, 1 bed, 1 bureau. The son Ola died as earlyas 1826 and the father took over the farm.
Ola Olsen sr. sold the farm in 1836 for the price of 300 spesidaler to his son in law Ola Oslon Nedrebøen, Bøle farm no 1, born 1804, died 1848 got married in 1827 to Astrid Olsdotter Bratterud born 1807.
Children of Astrid Olsdotter and Ola Olson:
1. Ola, born 1828, the next user
2. Ola born 1830, died 1830
3. Ola born 1831, emigrated to America in 1851
4. Aslak born 1854, emigrated to America in 1869
5. Knut born 1837, emigrated to America in 1852
6. Ingrid born 1842, emigrated to America in 1863
7. Tåmås born 1845, emigrated to America
Astrid Olsdatter 2nd time married in 1850 to Knut Aslakson Midtlie, for further information see Midtlie farm.
The son Ola Olson Bratterud got the legal papers on the farm in 1849 after his father’s death. Ola Olsen got married in 1850 to Tøren Haraldsdotter midtre Bratterud, born 1827. They emigrated to America in 1880.
Children of Ola Olsen and Tøren Haraldsdotter:
1. Ole born 1851, died 1852
2. Ole born 1853, teacher and organist, he lived in Hoff in Jarlsberg (Vestfold) in 1875, emigrated to America, died at Sørbøen in 1886.
3. Harald born in 1856 married to Kari Alfsdotter Leistrudlien, nedre Lie 22/13, born 1859. They had the daughter Tøren in 1878 and then emigrated to America in 1879.
4. Anne born 1859, died 1861
5. Anne born 1863, died 1863
6. Ole Andreas born 1865 emigrated to America with his parents in 1880. He got married in America to Thora Haraldsdotter Skar
7. Mikkel born 1868, emigrated to America with his parents in 1880
8. Knut born 1872, died 1872
9. Astrid born 1873, died 1874
In preparation to the cadastral farm lists in 1866 was the status of the farm: 18,000 m2 pretty good acres and farmed fields, 28,000 m2 god hayfields, from the mountain dairy farm and outlying field yield 29 skippund (1 skippund=185 kg), they would also collect branches with leaves, 800 skjerv (I haven’t been able to figure out how much that would be).
The farm stock in 1865: 3 cows, 10 sheep, 7 goats, 1 pig. They sowed 1 ½ barrel of barley, 1 ½ barrel of mixed grain, 6 barrels of potatoes.
Ola Olsen sold the farm in 1880 to Arne Arneson Fønnhus
Regards,
Arna Kristin
I got he bygdebøker from the library today. Translating these books are rather time consuming so I’ll add bits and pieces as I manage to finish them.
I started out with the Bratterud farm.
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Øvre Bratterud bnr. 3, page 497
Kristafer Vøll sold the farm in 1806 at the price of 1500 riksdaler to Ola Olson Øvre Sørflate born 1776 died 1860. 1st time married 1806 to Eli Tåmåsdotter Skar born 1785, died 1809.
The division of the property following Eli’s death in 1809 the gross property was 1032 riksdaler and the net property 515 riksdaler.
Children of Olse Olsen a nd Eli Tåmåsdotter:
1. Astrid, born 1807, uses the farm after her younger brother
2. Ola, born 1808, died 126, the next user
Ola Olson, born 1776, 2nd time married in 1810 to Siri Larsdotter Ølmhus, Søre Lundatn 50/8, born 1770 died 1825. The division of the property following Siri’s death in 1825 the gross property was 803 riksdaler and the net property 561 riksdaler.
Child of Ola Olsen and Siri Larsdotter:
1. Eli, born 1812 married Ola Arneson Klauvrud
Ola Oson, born 1776, 3rd time married in 1826 to Ingrid Knudsdotter Nedrebøen, Hølersetre 53/2, born 1775 died 1859
In 1822 Ola Olson exchanged property and got hold of the mountain dairy farm (seter) Erstadrødninger a sub farm of Erstad in change of Vøllsrødningen a sub farm of Bratterud.
In 1825 Ola Olson sold the farm to his son Ola Olson born 1808 but he still wanted to run the farm himself. The sale included all the inventory in the house: 3 cupboards, 1 dining table, 1 bed, 1 bureau. The son Ola died as earlyas 1826 and the father took over the farm.
Ola Olsen sr. sold the farm in 1836 for the price of 300 spesidaler to his son in law Ola Oslon Nedrebøen, Bøle farm no 1, born 1804, died 1848 got married in 1827 to Astrid Olsdotter Bratterud born 1807.
Children of Astrid Olsdotter and Ola Olson:
1. Ola, born 1828, the next user
2. Ola born 1830, died 1830
3. Ola born 1831, emigrated to America in 1851
4. Aslak born 1854, emigrated to America in 1869
5. Knut born 1837, emigrated to America in 1852
6. Ingrid born 1842, emigrated to America in 1863
7. Tåmås born 1845, emigrated to America
Astrid Olsdatter 2nd time married in 1850 to Knut Aslakson Midtlie, for further information see Midtlie farm.
The son Ola Olson Bratterud got the legal papers on the farm in 1849 after his father’s death. Ola Olsen got married in 1850 to Tøren Haraldsdotter midtre Bratterud, born 1827. They emigrated to America in 1880.
Children of Ola Olsen and Tøren Haraldsdotter:
1. Ole born 1851, died 1852
2. Ole born 1853, teacher and organist, he lived in Hoff in Jarlsberg (Vestfold) in 1875, emigrated to America, died at Sørbøen in 1886.
3. Harald born in 1856 married to Kari Alfsdotter Leistrudlien, nedre Lie 22/13, born 1859. They had the daughter Tøren in 1878 and then emigrated to America in 1879.
4. Anne born 1859, died 1861
5. Anne born 1863, died 1863
6. Ole Andreas born 1865 emigrated to America with his parents in 1880. He got married in America to Thora Haraldsdotter Skar
7. Mikkel born 1868, emigrated to America with his parents in 1880
8. Knut born 1872, died 1872
9. Astrid born 1873, died 1874
In preparation to the cadastral farm lists in 1866 was the status of the farm: 18,000 m2 pretty good acres and farmed fields, 28,000 m2 god hayfields, from the mountain dairy farm and outlying field yield 29 skippund (1 skippund=185 kg), they would also collect branches with leaves, 800 skjerv (I haven’t been able to figure out how much that would be).
The farm stock in 1865: 3 cows, 10 sheep, 7 goats, 1 pig. They sowed 1 ½ barrel of barley, 1 ½ barrel of mixed grain, 6 barrels of potatoes.
Ola Olsen sold the farm in 1880 to Arne Arneson Fønnhus
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Hi,
A little information on Ola Olson…
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Bøle, farm no 1, page 106
In 1794 was the lease of the land handed over to Ola Aslakson Hølle while Ola Embrekson Navrud and Siri Olsdotter Framgarden (the previous leasholders) was granted pension.
Ola Aslakson Hølle, Hølle 2/6 born 1762, died 1824 got married in 1795 to Ingrid Knutsdotter Smedsrud. Hølerstre 53/2 born 1775 died 1859
Children of Ola Aslakson and Ingrid Knutsdotter:
1. Siri born 1796 got married to Gunnar Julson over Jukam
2. Ingebjørg born 1798 got married to schoolmaster Hallvor Sjugurdson Øydgarden
3. Aslak born 1801, the next user
4. Ola born 1804 got married to Astrid Olsdotter Bratterud 23/3
5. Marit born 1807 got married to Hallvor Olson Stavadalen
6. Barbro born 1811 possibly married to Ola Olson over Sørflate
7. Knut born 1813 got married to Tore Sjugurdsdotter Skaratn, for further information see Bøleshaugen 6/2
8. Marit born 1817 got married to Sjugurd Trondson Bøen, for further information see Bøen 11/10
Ingrid Knutsdotter was in 1826 2nd time married to Ola Olson Bratterud, for further information see øvre Bratterud 23/3.
The son Aslak bought the farm in 1824 from the state for the price of 550 spesiedaler and in 1825 he negotiated the pension to Ingrid Knutsdotter. In 1825 Aslak sold the place Bøleshaugen to his younger brother Ola who would pay 2/5 of his mother’s pension.
The pension was set to 20 spesiedaler that would count for 2 ½ barrel of barley, ½ barel of light grain or bread grain, 1 skjeppe (1 skjeppe = 17,4 l) salt, 12 alen (1 alen = 62,75 cm) sacking, 1 par of shoes, care and feed of 2 ½ cow and 5 small stock and 5,000 m2 of land down at Flatåkere.
There are more information regarding Aslak Olson and his descendants on page 106 and onwards.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
A little information on Ola Olson…
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Bøle, farm no 1, page 106
In 1794 was the lease of the land handed over to Ola Aslakson Hølle while Ola Embrekson Navrud and Siri Olsdotter Framgarden (the previous leasholders) was granted pension.
Ola Aslakson Hølle, Hølle 2/6 born 1762, died 1824 got married in 1795 to Ingrid Knutsdotter Smedsrud. Hølerstre 53/2 born 1775 died 1859
Children of Ola Aslakson and Ingrid Knutsdotter:
1. Siri born 1796 got married to Gunnar Julson over Jukam
2. Ingebjørg born 1798 got married to schoolmaster Hallvor Sjugurdson Øydgarden
3. Aslak born 1801, the next user
4. Ola born 1804 got married to Astrid Olsdotter Bratterud 23/3
5. Marit born 1807 got married to Hallvor Olson Stavadalen
6. Barbro born 1811 possibly married to Ola Olson over Sørflate
7. Knut born 1813 got married to Tore Sjugurdsdotter Skaratn, for further information see Bøleshaugen 6/2
8. Marit born 1817 got married to Sjugurd Trondson Bøen, for further information see Bøen 11/10
Ingrid Knutsdotter was in 1826 2nd time married to Ola Olson Bratterud, for further information see øvre Bratterud 23/3.
The son Aslak bought the farm in 1824 from the state for the price of 550 spesiedaler and in 1825 he negotiated the pension to Ingrid Knutsdotter. In 1825 Aslak sold the place Bøleshaugen to his younger brother Ola who would pay 2/5 of his mother’s pension.
The pension was set to 20 spesiedaler that would count for 2 ½ barrel of barley, ½ barel of light grain or bread grain, 1 skjeppe (1 skjeppe = 17,4 l) salt, 12 alen (1 alen = 62,75 cm) sacking, 1 par of shoes, care and feed of 2 ½ cow and 5 small stock and 5,000 m2 of land down at Flatåkere.
There are more information regarding Aslak Olson and his descendants on page 106 and onwards.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Hi,
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Austegarden bruk II page 281
Pål Gulbrandson was once more the sole owner of bruk II in 1768 when he sold the farm to Aslak Olson Hølle at the price of 1005 riksdaler.
Aslak Olson Hølle was married to Marit Olsdotter Ølmhus and was previous owner of Hølle 2/ for further information see there.
Aslak Olson sold the farm to his son Ola Aslakson in 1786 at the price of 699 riksdaler. Ola Aslakson born 1757, died 1815 got married in 1790 to Ingebjørg Knutsdotter Smedsrud, Hølersetre 53/2 born 1773, died 1821. The division of the property following Ola’s death in 1815 the gross property was 1012 spesidaler and the net property 813 spesidaler.
Children of Ola Aslakson and Ingebjørg Knutsdotter:
1. Aslak born 1792, the next user
2. Knut born 1794 got married to Astri Knutsdotter Lo, for further information se Austegardlie 12/14
3. Marit born 1797 got married to Mikjel Bjørnson Bøen, for further information se Bøen 11/17
4. Ola born 1880 got married to Guri Olsdotter Bagn, for further information se Dølveskamben 48/6
5. Ingebjørg born 1804 got married to Ola Olson Bagn, for further information se Fremredalen 37/5
6. Olea born 1807 got married to Andreas Gulbrandson Landmark. They had one daughter, Beret, at Framgare arm in 1829.
7. Marit born 1813 got married to Ellend Sjugurdson Jukam, for further information se Lie 22/15
Ingebjørg Knutsdotter was 2nd time married in 1816 to Erik Timannson Åskjer born abt 1789. The division of the property following Ingebjørg’s death in 1821 the gross property was 494 spesidaler and the net property 334 spesidaler.
Ola Aslakson sold the farm in 1793 to Andreas Hanson Jukam at the price of 2000 riksdaler excluding the mountain dairy farm Ølnessetre but became the owner of Austrgarden again in an exchange in 1805. Ola Aslakson was at this time named Smedsrud and handed over to Andreas Hanson Jukam 3 hides in the Leisterud farm that he had bought in 1804. Ola Aslakson withheld 2 hides in the places Smedsrudlie and Midtlie and paid the rest in cash, 300 riksdaler. Smedsrudlie and Midtlie was a part of the property by the time of the diversion of the property following Ola’s death in 1816.
The son Aslak Olson born 1792 died 1853 took over Austregarden he got married in 1821 to Marit Eivindsdotter Bondli from Nord-Aurdal born abt 1797, died 1827. The division of the property following Marit’s death in 1827 the gross property was 209 spesidaler and the net property 1111 spesidaler. The landed property consisted of 10 hides in Austegarde, 5 hides in Kollsgard and ½ a hide in Bjødalssetre.
Children of Aslak Olson and Marit Eivindsdotter:
1. Ola born 1822 1st time married to Dorte Nilsdotter, 2nd time married to Berte Maria Olsdotter Tømtoeige. Ola Aslakson bougt nørdre Tronrud 24/4, look there for further information.
2. Eivind born 1824 got married to Ingebjørg Andersdotter Haslebrøtin
3. Ingebjørg born 1827, died 1828
Aslak Olson sold the farm in 1835 to Ola Oslon Hølsetre for the price of 1,000 spesidaler.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Austegarden bruk II page 281
Pål Gulbrandson was once more the sole owner of bruk II in 1768 when he sold the farm to Aslak Olson Hølle at the price of 1005 riksdaler.
Aslak Olson Hølle was married to Marit Olsdotter Ølmhus and was previous owner of Hølle 2/ for further information see there.
Aslak Olson sold the farm to his son Ola Aslakson in 1786 at the price of 699 riksdaler. Ola Aslakson born 1757, died 1815 got married in 1790 to Ingebjørg Knutsdotter Smedsrud, Hølersetre 53/2 born 1773, died 1821. The division of the property following Ola’s death in 1815 the gross property was 1012 spesidaler and the net property 813 spesidaler.
Children of Ola Aslakson and Ingebjørg Knutsdotter:
1. Aslak born 1792, the next user
2. Knut born 1794 got married to Astri Knutsdotter Lo, for further information se Austegardlie 12/14
3. Marit born 1797 got married to Mikjel Bjørnson Bøen, for further information se Bøen 11/17
4. Ola born 1880 got married to Guri Olsdotter Bagn, for further information se Dølveskamben 48/6
5. Ingebjørg born 1804 got married to Ola Olson Bagn, for further information se Fremredalen 37/5
6. Olea born 1807 got married to Andreas Gulbrandson Landmark. They had one daughter, Beret, at Framgare arm in 1829.
7. Marit born 1813 got married to Ellend Sjugurdson Jukam, for further information se Lie 22/15
Ingebjørg Knutsdotter was 2nd time married in 1816 to Erik Timannson Åskjer born abt 1789. The division of the property following Ingebjørg’s death in 1821 the gross property was 494 spesidaler and the net property 334 spesidaler.
Ola Aslakson sold the farm in 1793 to Andreas Hanson Jukam at the price of 2000 riksdaler excluding the mountain dairy farm Ølnessetre but became the owner of Austrgarden again in an exchange in 1805. Ola Aslakson was at this time named Smedsrud and handed over to Andreas Hanson Jukam 3 hides in the Leisterud farm that he had bought in 1804. Ola Aslakson withheld 2 hides in the places Smedsrudlie and Midtlie and paid the rest in cash, 300 riksdaler. Smedsrudlie and Midtlie was a part of the property by the time of the diversion of the property following Ola’s death in 1816.
The son Aslak Olson born 1792 died 1853 took over Austregarden he got married in 1821 to Marit Eivindsdotter Bondli from Nord-Aurdal born abt 1797, died 1827. The division of the property following Marit’s death in 1827 the gross property was 209 spesidaler and the net property 1111 spesidaler. The landed property consisted of 10 hides in Austegarde, 5 hides in Kollsgard and ½ a hide in Bjødalssetre.
Children of Aslak Olson and Marit Eivindsdotter:
1. Ola born 1822 1st time married to Dorte Nilsdotter, 2nd time married to Berte Maria Olsdotter Tømtoeige. Ola Aslakson bougt nørdre Tronrud 24/4, look there for further information.
2. Eivind born 1824 got married to Ingebjørg Andersdotter Haslebrøtin
3. Ingebjørg born 1827, died 1828
Aslak Olson sold the farm in 1835 to Ola Oslon Hølsetre for the price of 1,000 spesidaler.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Arna
Mange tusen tukk! I think that is how you write it. My grandmother would say that sometimes for the littlest gift or deed done for her.
There is so much information I'm not sure when I will get it into my data - work gets in the way! My relative will be very pleased to get so much information. They had some of it but there was problems with the Ole Olsens and too many of them to figure out which one was which.
I might have been able to get the bygdebok but never to translate it.
Thanks again. What great information!
David Vinge
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
Mange tusen tukk! I think that is how you write it. My grandmother would say that sometimes for the littlest gift or deed done for her.
There is so much information I'm not sure when I will get it into my data - work gets in the way! My relative will be very pleased to get so much information. They had some of it but there was problems with the Ole Olsens and too many of them to figure out which one was which.
I might have been able to get the bygdebok but never to translate it.
Thanks again. What great information!
David Vinge
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Hi,
Your relatives might like to borrow this book as there are some old photographs there as well.
I they want to buy a copy contact the Valdres Historical association, http://www.valdreshistorielag.no
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Nedre Lie brn. 13, page 438
In 1863 Timann Johannesson sold nedre Lie to Alv Alvson midre Leistrud born 1827, died 1872 he got married to Kari Ivarsdotter Saudalen born 1832. Kari Ivarsdotter and 4 of her children lived in Saudalen in 1875 where she was a lodger and a day laborer. Kari sold Lie in 1877 to Hallvor Andersson.
Kari Ivarsdotter and her children Ole and Berit emigrated to America in 1880.
Alv Alvsson had a daughter, Kari, in 1851 with Helga Olsdotter Hølerseterhaugen. Helga got married to Anders Tronsson Bakkatn, for further information se Bakkatn 12/lnr. 385b.
Children of Alv Alvson and Kari Ivarsdotter:
1. Alv born 1856, emigrated to America in 1878
2. Kari born 1859 got married to Harald Olson, for further information se Brattrud 23/3
3. Iver born 1861
4. Berit born 1863, died 1868
5. Ole born 1866
6. Berit born 1869
In preparation to the cadastral farm lists in 1866 was the status of the farm: 7,000 m2 of exceptional bad acres and farmed fields, 30,000 m2 of bad hayfields. The “hamninga” (I guess that’s the fenced land close to the farm houses) was adequate and the farm is remotely located. In 1865 the stock consisted of: 3 cows, 4 sheep, 3 goats. They sowed: 1 barrel of barley and 2 ½ barrel of potatoes.
At the moment I’m not able to find the place Saudalen. …found it… a sub farm of Leisterud.
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Saudalen bnr. 5, page 440
Saudalen is located north of Storebruføsse below Saudalsberge towards Begna. The first cotters are Ivar Olson Bagnseige, who originated from Gudbrandsdalen born abt 1797, died 1873 he got married in 1832 to Berit Trondsdotter Bagnseige, Brubakklykkja 39/22 born 1808, died 1880. They are mentioned at Sørbøen in 1832 and at Leistruteige later mentioned at Saudalen, from 1835. In 1865 the sons Ivar and Ola were shoemakers and Johanses was a tailor.
Children of Ivar Olson and Berit Trondsdatter:
1. Kari born 1832 got married to Alv Alvson Leistrud, for further information se Lie 22/12
2. Ola born 1835 got married to Ingeborg Johannesdotter Haugrud, for further information se Lineikro 12/17
3. Trond born 1838 got married to Dorte Jensdotter Humleberg, for further information se Hagatn 11/11
4. Ingrid born 1842, died 1842
5. Ivar born 1843
5. Johannes born 1846, died 1874
In 1865 the stock consisted of: 3 cows, 2 sheep, 3 goats. They sowed: ½ barrel of barley and 2 barrel of potatoes.
Kari Ivarsdotter lived in Saudale in 1875 with four children. Kari became a widow in nedre Lien and moved back to the house where she grew up. In 1875 she was a day laborer and in the same household as her was her brother Ivar who was a shoemaker.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Your relatives might like to borrow this book as there are some old photographs there as well.
I they want to buy a copy contact the Valdres Historical association, http://www.valdreshistorielag.no
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Nedre Lie brn. 13, page 438
In 1863 Timann Johannesson sold nedre Lie to Alv Alvson midre Leistrud born 1827, died 1872 he got married to Kari Ivarsdotter Saudalen born 1832. Kari Ivarsdotter and 4 of her children lived in Saudalen in 1875 where she was a lodger and a day laborer. Kari sold Lie in 1877 to Hallvor Andersson.
Kari Ivarsdotter and her children Ole and Berit emigrated to America in 1880.
Alv Alvsson had a daughter, Kari, in 1851 with Helga Olsdotter Hølerseterhaugen. Helga got married to Anders Tronsson Bakkatn, for further information se Bakkatn 12/lnr. 385b.
Children of Alv Alvson and Kari Ivarsdotter:
1. Alv born 1856, emigrated to America in 1878
2. Kari born 1859 got married to Harald Olson, for further information se Brattrud 23/3
3. Iver born 1861
4. Berit born 1863, died 1868
5. Ole born 1866
6. Berit born 1869
In preparation to the cadastral farm lists in 1866 was the status of the farm: 7,000 m2 of exceptional bad acres and farmed fields, 30,000 m2 of bad hayfields. The “hamninga” (I guess that’s the fenced land close to the farm houses) was adequate and the farm is remotely located. In 1865 the stock consisted of: 3 cows, 4 sheep, 3 goats. They sowed: 1 barrel of barley and 2 ½ barrel of potatoes.
At the moment I’m not able to find the place Saudalen. …found it… a sub farm of Leisterud.
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Saudalen bnr. 5, page 440
Saudalen is located north of Storebruføsse below Saudalsberge towards Begna. The first cotters are Ivar Olson Bagnseige, who originated from Gudbrandsdalen born abt 1797, died 1873 he got married in 1832 to Berit Trondsdotter Bagnseige, Brubakklykkja 39/22 born 1808, died 1880. They are mentioned at Sørbøen in 1832 and at Leistruteige later mentioned at Saudalen, from 1835. In 1865 the sons Ivar and Ola were shoemakers and Johanses was a tailor.
Children of Ivar Olson and Berit Trondsdatter:
1. Kari born 1832 got married to Alv Alvson Leistrud, for further information se Lie 22/12
2. Ola born 1835 got married to Ingeborg Johannesdotter Haugrud, for further information se Lineikro 12/17
3. Trond born 1838 got married to Dorte Jensdotter Humleberg, for further information se Hagatn 11/11
4. Ingrid born 1842, died 1842
5. Ivar born 1843
5. Johannes born 1846, died 1874
In 1865 the stock consisted of: 3 cows, 2 sheep, 3 goats. They sowed: ½ barrel of barley and 2 barrel of potatoes.
Kari Ivarsdotter lived in Saudale in 1875 with four children. Kari became a widow in nedre Lien and moved back to the house where she grew up. In 1875 she was a day laborer and in the same household as her was her brother Ivar who was a shoemaker.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Hi,
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Midtre Leistrud brn. 8, page 443
Alv Sjugurson Leistrud bought in 1743 8 hides in Leisterud for the price of 200 riksdaler of his father Sjugurd Alvson. It was said to be the northern part of the farm, the place Bakkatn in addition to Mattisplassen which Alv could use after the death of the previous cotter Mattis Gulbrandson.
Alv Sjugurdson Leistrud born 1722, died 1763 got married in 1843 to Siri Guttormsdotter Dølve born 1722, died in 1795.
The division of the property following Siri’s death in 1795 the gross property was 246 riksdaler and the net property 228 riksdaler.
Children of Alv Sjugurson and Siri Guttormsdotter:
1. Sjugurd born 1745, died 1758
2. Ola born 1748, died 1750
3. Eli born 1750 got married to Ola Olson Brattvøll, for further information se Leistrudbakkin 22/10
4. Guttorm born 1752
5. Ola born 1754, the next user
6. Guttorm born 1755
7. Kjersti born 1756 got married to Knut Knutson Grandalen, Etnedal
8. Guttorm born 1757 got married to Anne Olsdotter Brattrud, for further information se Midtlie 22/16
9. Sjugurd born 1760
10. Sjugurd born 1762
Siri Guttormsdotter was 2nd time married in 1762 to Tore Olson nørdre Tronrud born 1837 died 1783
Children of Siri Guttormsdotter and Tore Olson:
1. Tora born 1764, died 1765
2. Tora born 1765, died 1766
Tore Olson sold the farm to his stepson Ola Alvson in 1777.
Pension to Tore and Siri according to a contract of 1782 was the use of part of the farm counted for 2 hides a summer mountain dairy farm (seter) half of a field of hops and a field of cabbage.
Ola Alvson Leisterud born 1754, died 1813 got married in 1778 to Gjartrud Ivardsotter Bagn, nedre Bagn bruk III, born 1753, died 1841.
Children of Ola Alvson and Gjartrud Ivarsdotter:
1. Tora born 1780 got married to Amund Amundson Leistrud, for further information se Framgarden 13/16
2. Alv. Born 1784, the next user
3. Ivar born 1788, died 1842
Ola sold the farm to his som Alv in 1808 for the price of 500 riksdaler.
Alv Olson Leisterud born 1784 died 1863 got married in 1809 to Kari Aslaksdotter Bakkatn, Bakkatn 12/1 born 1787, died 1863.
Children of Alv Olson and Kari Aslaksdotter:
1. Gjartrud born 1810 got married to Mattis Kristaferson Midtvøll
2. Ola born 1813, the next user
3. Aslak born 1816, died 1816
4. Aslak born 1817, died 1847
5. Sjugurd born 1821, moved to Hallingdal.
6. Ivar born 1825 got married to Beret Haraldsdotter Brattrud, for further information se Steinsrudplassen sub farm of Smedsrud
7. Alv born 1827 got married to Kari Ivarsdotter Saudalen, for further information se nedre Lie 22/13
8. Halldor born 1830, died 1830
Alv Olson sold the farm in 1838 to his son Ola but withheld Leisterudplassen 22/9 and half of Hellebekksetre, “appraised and split of from another property - and given a relative value in the land registry system” earlier that year of one hide. The main farm midtre Leisterud
”appraised and split of from another property - and given a relative value in the land registry system” at the same time at 7 hides
Ola got the farm valued by the handing over the farm in 1838 because he wanted to get a mortgage. The farm could usually feed 16-18 cows, 16-18 small animals (such as sheep/goats). The crop was 30-40 barrels of grain and 40-50 barrels of potatoes. It was sufficient housings in god condition. Main house, cow barn, stable and smaller animal barn were pretty new, and it was adequate Forrest to comply with the household. The farm was valued at 1600 spesiedaler.
Ola Alvson Leistrud born 1813, died 1894 got married in 1835 to Anne Dortea Olsdotter Sofienlund born abt 1810
Children of Ola Alvson and Anne Dortea Olsdotter:
1. Alv born 1836, the next user
2. Maria born 1837 got married to Ola Olson Trondsrud, for further information se Saudalen 22/5
3. Ola born 1839 got married to Anne Olsdotter Leisterud, for further information se søre Leisterud 22/19
4. Kari born 1842, died 1887
5. Gjartrud born 1844, died 1850
6. Dortea born 1846, died 1850
7. Anne born 1849, died 1851
8. Andreas born 1852 got married to Kari Persdotter Leistrud, for further information se søre Smedsrud 22/2
9. Anton born 1854 was at home in 1900 and worked as day laborer and farming.
In preparation to the cadastral farm lists in 1866 was the status of the farm: 24,000 m2 of pretty god acres and farmed fields, 84,000m2 of regular hayfields from the summer mountain dairy farm and outlaying fields that yoeld 42 skippspund of hay, “hamninga” (I guess that’s the fenced land close to the farm houses) was adequate and they collected branches with leaves total of 1,000 skjerv. In 1865 the stock consisted of: 2 horses, 9 cows, 19 sheep, 1 pig. They sowed: 1/8 barrel of rye, 3 barrels of barley 1 ½ barrel of mixed grain, ¼ barrel of peas and 7 barrels of potatoes.
Fire insurance value 1881:
1. One ”house on a farm where people live, a farm house” two stores high, tree rooms on the ground floor and stone roof.
2. One stall with soil roofing
3. One barn with 3 rooms and tile roof
4. One building with cow barn and stable, tile roof. This building also had a “barn bridge”.
5. One kitchen with soil roof
Ola Alvson sold the farm in 1888 to his son Alv Olson born 1835, died 1914 got married in 1875 to Ingrid Olsdotter Kristianslund born 1842.
Alv og Ingrid moved down to Saudalen and sold the farm in 1908 to Ole Halvorson Hengja, Hølvegen 36/21.
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Saudalen bnr 5 page 441
Anton Kleven sold Saudalen in 1909 to Alv Olson Listerud and Ingrid Olsdotter Kristianslund who previously owned midtre Leistrerud 22/8.
Ingrid Olsdotter sold Saudalen in 1915 to Anders Nilson Haugen from Odnes.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Midtre Leistrud brn. 8, page 443
Alv Sjugurson Leistrud bought in 1743 8 hides in Leisterud for the price of 200 riksdaler of his father Sjugurd Alvson. It was said to be the northern part of the farm, the place Bakkatn in addition to Mattisplassen which Alv could use after the death of the previous cotter Mattis Gulbrandson.
Alv Sjugurdson Leistrud born 1722, died 1763 got married in 1843 to Siri Guttormsdotter Dølve born 1722, died in 1795.
The division of the property following Siri’s death in 1795 the gross property was 246 riksdaler and the net property 228 riksdaler.
Children of Alv Sjugurson and Siri Guttormsdotter:
1. Sjugurd born 1745, died 1758
2. Ola born 1748, died 1750
3. Eli born 1750 got married to Ola Olson Brattvøll, for further information se Leistrudbakkin 22/10
4. Guttorm born 1752
5. Ola born 1754, the next user
6. Guttorm born 1755
7. Kjersti born 1756 got married to Knut Knutson Grandalen, Etnedal
8. Guttorm born 1757 got married to Anne Olsdotter Brattrud, for further information se Midtlie 22/16
9. Sjugurd born 1760
10. Sjugurd born 1762
Siri Guttormsdotter was 2nd time married in 1762 to Tore Olson nørdre Tronrud born 1837 died 1783
Children of Siri Guttormsdotter and Tore Olson:
1. Tora born 1764, died 1765
2. Tora born 1765, died 1766
Tore Olson sold the farm to his stepson Ola Alvson in 1777.
Pension to Tore and Siri according to a contract of 1782 was the use of part of the farm counted for 2 hides a summer mountain dairy farm (seter) half of a field of hops and a field of cabbage.
Ola Alvson Leisterud born 1754, died 1813 got married in 1778 to Gjartrud Ivardsotter Bagn, nedre Bagn bruk III, born 1753, died 1841.
Children of Ola Alvson and Gjartrud Ivarsdotter:
1. Tora born 1780 got married to Amund Amundson Leistrud, for further information se Framgarden 13/16
2. Alv. Born 1784, the next user
3. Ivar born 1788, died 1842
Ola sold the farm to his som Alv in 1808 for the price of 500 riksdaler.
Alv Olson Leisterud born 1784 died 1863 got married in 1809 to Kari Aslaksdotter Bakkatn, Bakkatn 12/1 born 1787, died 1863.
Children of Alv Olson and Kari Aslaksdotter:
1. Gjartrud born 1810 got married to Mattis Kristaferson Midtvøll
2. Ola born 1813, the next user
3. Aslak born 1816, died 1816
4. Aslak born 1817, died 1847
5. Sjugurd born 1821, moved to Hallingdal.
6. Ivar born 1825 got married to Beret Haraldsdotter Brattrud, for further information se Steinsrudplassen sub farm of Smedsrud
7. Alv born 1827 got married to Kari Ivarsdotter Saudalen, for further information se nedre Lie 22/13
8. Halldor born 1830, died 1830
Alv Olson sold the farm in 1838 to his son Ola but withheld Leisterudplassen 22/9 and half of Hellebekksetre, “appraised and split of from another property - and given a relative value in the land registry system” earlier that year of one hide. The main farm midtre Leisterud
”appraised and split of from another property - and given a relative value in the land registry system” at the same time at 7 hides
Ola got the farm valued by the handing over the farm in 1838 because he wanted to get a mortgage. The farm could usually feed 16-18 cows, 16-18 small animals (such as sheep/goats). The crop was 30-40 barrels of grain and 40-50 barrels of potatoes. It was sufficient housings in god condition. Main house, cow barn, stable and smaller animal barn were pretty new, and it was adequate Forrest to comply with the household. The farm was valued at 1600 spesiedaler.
Ola Alvson Leistrud born 1813, died 1894 got married in 1835 to Anne Dortea Olsdotter Sofienlund born abt 1810
Children of Ola Alvson and Anne Dortea Olsdotter:
1. Alv born 1836, the next user
2. Maria born 1837 got married to Ola Olson Trondsrud, for further information se Saudalen 22/5
3. Ola born 1839 got married to Anne Olsdotter Leisterud, for further information se søre Leisterud 22/19
4. Kari born 1842, died 1887
5. Gjartrud born 1844, died 1850
6. Dortea born 1846, died 1850
7. Anne born 1849, died 1851
8. Andreas born 1852 got married to Kari Persdotter Leistrud, for further information se søre Smedsrud 22/2
9. Anton born 1854 was at home in 1900 and worked as day laborer and farming.
In preparation to the cadastral farm lists in 1866 was the status of the farm: 24,000 m2 of pretty god acres and farmed fields, 84,000m2 of regular hayfields from the summer mountain dairy farm and outlaying fields that yoeld 42 skippspund of hay, “hamninga” (I guess that’s the fenced land close to the farm houses) was adequate and they collected branches with leaves total of 1,000 skjerv. In 1865 the stock consisted of: 2 horses, 9 cows, 19 sheep, 1 pig. They sowed: 1/8 barrel of rye, 3 barrels of barley 1 ½ barrel of mixed grain, ¼ barrel of peas and 7 barrels of potatoes.
Fire insurance value 1881:
1. One ”house on a farm where people live, a farm house” two stores high, tree rooms on the ground floor and stone roof.
2. One stall with soil roofing
3. One barn with 3 rooms and tile roof
4. One building with cow barn and stable, tile roof. This building also had a “barn bridge”.
5. One kitchen with soil roof
Ola Alvson sold the farm in 1888 to his son Alv Olson born 1835, died 1914 got married in 1875 to Ingrid Olsdotter Kristianslund born 1842.
Alv og Ingrid moved down to Saudalen and sold the farm in 1908 to Ole Halvorson Hengja, Hølvegen 36/21.
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Saudalen bnr 5 page 441
Anton Kleven sold Saudalen in 1909 to Alv Olson Listerud and Ingrid Olsdotter Kristianslund who previously owned midtre Leistrerud 22/8.
Ingrid Olsdotter sold Saudalen in 1915 to Anders Nilson Haugen from Odnes.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
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Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Hi,
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Midtre Bratterud bnr 9, page 480
Aslak Timannson sold the farm in 1772 at the price of 800 riksdaler to Harald Tåmåsson Skar married to Anne Mikjelsdotter, for further information se Skar, the first in the new family at midtre Bratterud.
The division of the property following Harald Tåmåson’s death in 1793 the farm was put op for sale at the price of 798 riksdaler to his oldest son Mikjel Haraldson Bratterud sr born 1749 died 1813 got married in 1790 to Kjersti Sjugurdsdotter Bøen, Høve bruk I born 1759, died 1851.
Children of Mikjel Haraldson and Kjersti Sjugurdson:
1. Anne born 1792 got married to Hermann Olson Kallskøt
2. Harald born 1795, the next user
3. Sjugurd born 1800 got married to Ragnhild Olsdotter Døvle for further information se nødre Døvlesetre 48/10
Mikjel Haraldson sold the farm in 1813 to his son Harald Mikjelson born 1795, died 1876 got married in 1821 to Gjartrud Mikjelsdotter Høve, Høve bruk II born 1804, died 1836.
Children of Harald Mikjelson and Gjartrud Mikjelsdotter:
1. Mikjel born 1822, the next user
2. Kjersti born 1825 got married to Elling Sjugurdson Framgarden 13/3
3. Tøren born 1827 got married to Ola Olson Bratterud, for further information se over Bratterud 23/3
4. Anne born 1829 got married to schoolmaster and organist Ola Olson Torsrud, for further information se nørdre Gubberud 37/7
5. Mikjel born 1831, died 1831
6. Siri born 1832, 1st time married to Sjugrd Knutson Haslatn, for further information se Haslatn 13/9. 2nd time married to Ola Knutson Sigridrud.
Harald Mikjelson sold the farm to his son Mikjel Haraldson Bratterud in 1850.
Mikjel Haraldson Bratterud born 1822, died in 1878 got married in 1850 to Tora Arnesdotter søre Fønnhus born 1828.
Children of Mikjel Haraldson and Tora Arnesdotter:
1. Gjartrud born 1851 got married to Harald Tåmåson Skar
2. Harald born 1853, the next user
3. Arne born 1856 got married to Berit Olsdotter Leistrudbakkin, for further information se over midtre Brattrud 23/14
4. Ingrid born 1858 got married to Anton Embrekson Langøydgarden
5. Mikjel born 1863 got married to Marit Olsdotter Sløtet, for further information se nedre Kallskøte 29/1
In preparation to the cadastral farm lists in 1866 was the status of the farm: 20,000m2 of pretty god acres and developed fields, 44,000 pretty god hayfields, from summer mountain dairy farm and outlaying fields yield 58 skippspund of hay, they also collected brances with leaves, 800 skjerv.
In 1865 the stock on the farm consisted of: 1 horse, 12 cows, 14 sheep, 2 goats, and 1 pig. They sowed: 1 ½ barrel of barley, 2 barrel of mixed grain, 5 barrels of potatoes.
Tora Arnesdotter sold the farm in 1879 to her son Harald Mikjelson.
Harald Mikjelson born 1853, died 1921 got married in 1873 to Sigrid Tollefsdotter nørdre Øydgarden born 1852.
Children of Harald Mikjelson and Sigrid Tollefsdotter:
1. Tøren born 1874
2. Mikkel born 1876, the next user
3. Tollef born 1878, died 1974
4. Syver born 1879 died 1948. For further information regarding Syver and Tollef se over midtre Bratterud 23/14
Haralds brother Arne Mikkelson used the farm in cooperation with Harald and was noted as farmer and lease holder together with his family in 1891. They took over the farm over midtre Bratterud 23/14, divided in 1900.
Harald Mikkelson sold the farm to his son Mikkel Haraldson in 1904.
Mikkel Haraldson Bratrud born 1876 died 1951 got married in 1902 to Marit Sveinsdotter Thorsrud born 1877 died 1853.
Children of Mikkel Haraldson and Marit Sveinsdotter:
1. Thora born 1903 died 1921
2. Harald born 1905, the next user
3. Svein born 1907 got married to Aslaug Kamben, for further information se over midtre Bratterud 23/14
4. Mikael born 1910 got married to Ragnhild Brandt, Vestre Slidre, for further information se søre Vøll 32/5
5. Jøren born 1912
6. Ola born 1915, died 1917
7. Sigrid born 1918 got married to Kolbjørn Brattrud, for further information se nørdre Bratterud 23/1
Harald Mikkelson Bratrud born 1905, died 1974, owner from 1946 got married to Anne T. Langedrag born 1904
Children of Harald Mikkelson and Anne T. Langedrag:
1. Marit born 1943, owner from 1971
Marit Bratrud born 1943 got married to Mikkel O. Eid.
Children of Marit Bratrud and Mikkel O. Eid:
1. Anne Dorte
2. Odrun Helen
Midre Bratterud has 45,000m2 infields of which 35,000m2 is developed land and 700,000m2 of Forrest. From abt 1970 Anne and Harald stopped having farm animals, on an average they had 8 cows a few sheep and goats. The operation turned towards producing grains. In 1980 the farm land was put of for rent.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Valdres bygdebok, band 1, Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal. Band A
Reinli and Vestre Bagn. Author: Jon Ola Gjermundsen, editor Ivar Aars. 1987. 730 p
Midtre Bratterud bnr 9, page 480
Aslak Timannson sold the farm in 1772 at the price of 800 riksdaler to Harald Tåmåsson Skar married to Anne Mikjelsdotter, for further information se Skar, the first in the new family at midtre Bratterud.
The division of the property following Harald Tåmåson’s death in 1793 the farm was put op for sale at the price of 798 riksdaler to his oldest son Mikjel Haraldson Bratterud sr born 1749 died 1813 got married in 1790 to Kjersti Sjugurdsdotter Bøen, Høve bruk I born 1759, died 1851.
Children of Mikjel Haraldson and Kjersti Sjugurdson:
1. Anne born 1792 got married to Hermann Olson Kallskøt
2. Harald born 1795, the next user
3. Sjugurd born 1800 got married to Ragnhild Olsdotter Døvle for further information se nødre Døvlesetre 48/10
Mikjel Haraldson sold the farm in 1813 to his son Harald Mikjelson born 1795, died 1876 got married in 1821 to Gjartrud Mikjelsdotter Høve, Høve bruk II born 1804, died 1836.
Children of Harald Mikjelson and Gjartrud Mikjelsdotter:
1. Mikjel born 1822, the next user
2. Kjersti born 1825 got married to Elling Sjugurdson Framgarden 13/3
3. Tøren born 1827 got married to Ola Olson Bratterud, for further information se over Bratterud 23/3
4. Anne born 1829 got married to schoolmaster and organist Ola Olson Torsrud, for further information se nørdre Gubberud 37/7
5. Mikjel born 1831, died 1831
6. Siri born 1832, 1st time married to Sjugrd Knutson Haslatn, for further information se Haslatn 13/9. 2nd time married to Ola Knutson Sigridrud.
Harald Mikjelson sold the farm to his son Mikjel Haraldson Bratterud in 1850.
Mikjel Haraldson Bratterud born 1822, died in 1878 got married in 1850 to Tora Arnesdotter søre Fønnhus born 1828.
Children of Mikjel Haraldson and Tora Arnesdotter:
1. Gjartrud born 1851 got married to Harald Tåmåson Skar
2. Harald born 1853, the next user
3. Arne born 1856 got married to Berit Olsdotter Leistrudbakkin, for further information se over midtre Brattrud 23/14
4. Ingrid born 1858 got married to Anton Embrekson Langøydgarden
5. Mikjel born 1863 got married to Marit Olsdotter Sløtet, for further information se nedre Kallskøte 29/1
In preparation to the cadastral farm lists in 1866 was the status of the farm: 20,000m2 of pretty god acres and developed fields, 44,000 pretty god hayfields, from summer mountain dairy farm and outlaying fields yield 58 skippspund of hay, they also collected brances with leaves, 800 skjerv.
In 1865 the stock on the farm consisted of: 1 horse, 12 cows, 14 sheep, 2 goats, and 1 pig. They sowed: 1 ½ barrel of barley, 2 barrel of mixed grain, 5 barrels of potatoes.
Tora Arnesdotter sold the farm in 1879 to her son Harald Mikjelson.
Harald Mikjelson born 1853, died 1921 got married in 1873 to Sigrid Tollefsdotter nørdre Øydgarden born 1852.
Children of Harald Mikjelson and Sigrid Tollefsdotter:
1. Tøren born 1874
2. Mikkel born 1876, the next user
3. Tollef born 1878, died 1974
4. Syver born 1879 died 1948. For further information regarding Syver and Tollef se over midtre Bratterud 23/14
Haralds brother Arne Mikkelson used the farm in cooperation with Harald and was noted as farmer and lease holder together with his family in 1891. They took over the farm over midtre Bratterud 23/14, divided in 1900.
Harald Mikkelson sold the farm to his son Mikkel Haraldson in 1904.
Mikkel Haraldson Bratrud born 1876 died 1951 got married in 1902 to Marit Sveinsdotter Thorsrud born 1877 died 1853.
Children of Mikkel Haraldson and Marit Sveinsdotter:
1. Thora born 1903 died 1921
2. Harald born 1905, the next user
3. Svein born 1907 got married to Aslaug Kamben, for further information se over midtre Bratterud 23/14
4. Mikael born 1910 got married to Ragnhild Brandt, Vestre Slidre, for further information se søre Vøll 32/5
5. Jøren born 1912
6. Ola born 1915, died 1917
7. Sigrid born 1918 got married to Kolbjørn Brattrud, for further information se nørdre Bratterud 23/1
Harald Mikkelson Bratrud born 1905, died 1974, owner from 1946 got married to Anne T. Langedrag born 1904
Children of Harald Mikkelson and Anne T. Langedrag:
1. Marit born 1943, owner from 1971
Marit Bratrud born 1943 got married to Mikkel O. Eid.
Children of Marit Bratrud and Mikkel O. Eid:
1. Anne Dorte
2. Odrun Helen
Midre Bratterud has 45,000m2 infields of which 35,000m2 is developed land and 700,000m2 of Forrest. From abt 1970 Anne and Harald stopped having farm animals, on an average they had 8 cows a few sheep and goats. The operation turned towards producing grains. In 1980 the farm land was put of for rent.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Arna,
You are a never ending source of information! Thank you so much. If I ever get to Norway, I will have to look you up and thank you in person. What a wealth of data. I'm hoping that you have not spent too much time translating but probablly have. I could never have done that!
Thanks again
David
You are a never ending source of information! Thank you so much. If I ever get to Norway, I will have to look you up and thank you in person. What a wealth of data. I'm hoping that you have not spent too much time translating but probablly have. I could never have done that!
Thanks again
David
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Arna,
I was wondering what "hides" mean or how they are used?
Pension to Tore and Siri according to a contract of 1782 was the use of part of the farm counted for 2 hides a summer mountain dairy farm (seter) half of a field of hops and a field of cabbage.
Other places:
...given a relative value in the land registry system” at the same time at 7 hides
...handed over to Andreas Hanson Jukam 3 hides in the Leisterud farm that he had bought in 1804
...Ola Aslakson withheld 2 hides in the places Smedsrudlie and Midtlie and paid the rest in cash,
...The landed property consisted of 10 hides in Austegarde, 5 hides in Kollsgard and ½ a hide in Bjødalssetre.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide.
David Vinge
I was wondering what "hides" mean or how they are used?
Pension to Tore and Siri according to a contract of 1782 was the use of part of the farm counted for 2 hides a summer mountain dairy farm (seter) half of a field of hops and a field of cabbage.
Other places:
...given a relative value in the land registry system” at the same time at 7 hides
...handed over to Andreas Hanson Jukam 3 hides in the Leisterud farm that he had bought in 1804
...Ola Aslakson withheld 2 hides in the places Smedsrudlie and Midtlie and paid the rest in cash,
...The landed property consisted of 10 hides in Austegarde, 5 hides in Kollsgard and ½ a hide in Bjødalssetre.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide.
David Vinge
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Hi,
He, he… I was afraid you would ask about that. I find this very complicated and thus not easy to translate, this is some old measurements that I have had some difficulties too grasp myself.
Anyone out there – correct me if I’m wrong about this.
It is a valuation of the farmland and prospective income for taxation purposes.
Matrikkelskyld = rural land tax
Prior to 1838 it is common to measure in hides, barrels of grains or fish depending on the production on the farm. In principal the valuation was equal to the amount of abt 1/6 of the production.
1 hide= 12 calf hides
1838-1886
Skylddaler, ort and skilling – 1 sylddaler=5 ort; 1 ort=24 skilling
1886-1980
Skyldmark and øre: 1 skyldmark=100 øre
Converter:
1 hide = 4 skylddaler
1 skylddaler = 2 skyldmark
Luckily, I finally found an English article, so I hope this will make more sense…
Norwegian farms – some background information, http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na27.html
Matrikkel – Land records, http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/matrikkel.html
Kår = pension, retirement agreement
Copied from http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm
Kår: support received after giving one's estate to another [When a son took over the farm (with all responsibilities) usually some sort of agreement was made with his parents. One part of the agreement was how his parents should be taken care of. Depending on the size of the farm they could be well off or not. One (or more) cows, some sheep, flour, potatoes etc. per year, plus somewhere to live on the farm. Some money per year might be in the deal as well, and in some cases one or two of the people working on the farm were designated to the older couple - often part-time. Often the older ones had to move into a "kårstue / kårstugu". "Stugu" = house, smaller than the main house. The young wife took over the responsibilities in the house, including the running of servants etc. and all the keys from the older wife. The takeover could be done early or late in the people's life. For some "oldies" it was nice to leave the responsibilities to a young, thrifty couple, while in other cases the old husband and his wife stuck to their rights as long as possible. For such a young couple, living with parents and father/ mother in law year after year without much to say, the quality of life and marriage might suffer a lot!
Hope this clarified some of your questions.
David, I have one question for you regarding genealogy in Canada.
I’m trying to find out what happened to my grandmothers 1st husband who after the divorce he emigrated to Canada in 1927 and he died in 1982, in Montreal. He had no contact with his ex-wife or two daughters so I’m just curious if there possible to figure out something about his life and where he’s buried. Rumors say that he was in the fur trade/hunter and lived/married to a native Canadian and as far as we know he did not have any children in Canada.
…any suggestions would be appreciated.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
He, he… I was afraid you would ask about that. I find this very complicated and thus not easy to translate, this is some old measurements that I have had some difficulties too grasp myself.
Anyone out there – correct me if I’m wrong about this.
It is a valuation of the farmland and prospective income for taxation purposes.
Matrikkelskyld = rural land tax
Prior to 1838 it is common to measure in hides, barrels of grains or fish depending on the production on the farm. In principal the valuation was equal to the amount of abt 1/6 of the production.
1 hide= 12 calf hides
1838-1886
Skylddaler, ort and skilling – 1 sylddaler=5 ort; 1 ort=24 skilling
1886-1980
Skyldmark and øre: 1 skyldmark=100 øre
Converter:
1 hide = 4 skylddaler
1 skylddaler = 2 skyldmark
Luckily, I finally found an English article, so I hope this will make more sense…
Norwegian farms – some background information, http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na27.html
Matrikkel – Land records, http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/matrikkel.html
Kår = pension, retirement agreement
Copied from http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm
Kår: support received after giving one's estate to another [When a son took over the farm (with all responsibilities) usually some sort of agreement was made with his parents. One part of the agreement was how his parents should be taken care of. Depending on the size of the farm they could be well off or not. One (or more) cows, some sheep, flour, potatoes etc. per year, plus somewhere to live on the farm. Some money per year might be in the deal as well, and in some cases one or two of the people working on the farm were designated to the older couple - often part-time. Often the older ones had to move into a "kårstue / kårstugu". "Stugu" = house, smaller than the main house. The young wife took over the responsibilities in the house, including the running of servants etc. and all the keys from the older wife. The takeover could be done early or late in the people's life. For some "oldies" it was nice to leave the responsibilities to a young, thrifty couple, while in other cases the old husband and his wife stuck to their rights as long as possible. For such a young couple, living with parents and father/ mother in law year after year without much to say, the quality of life and marriage might suffer a lot!
Hope this clarified some of your questions.
David, I have one question for you regarding genealogy in Canada.
I’m trying to find out what happened to my grandmothers 1st husband who after the divorce he emigrated to Canada in 1927 and he died in 1982, in Montreal. He had no contact with his ex-wife or two daughters so I’m just curious if there possible to figure out something about his life and where he’s buried. Rumors say that he was in the fur trade/hunter and lived/married to a native Canadian and as far as we know he did not have any children in Canada.
…any suggestions would be appreciated.
Regards,
Arna Kristin
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Thanks again, Arna. I've been on holidays and now back to my genealogy work. I will read that article and hopefully it will make sense to me. Taxation!! It would be hard to make a living back then and then taxed. Some things never change.
Re: Bratrud and Lestrudlien farm
Oops, went back to reread the information and saw your query about your grandmother’s first husband. In Canada there are pretty strict rules (Freedom of Information Act - FOIP) and the only way that I know how to find out about his death is to go to the obituaries in a newspaper. You might be able to go to the Quebec Vital statistics and if he is a direct ancestor and you can find the proper documents they may give you information. I’m not sure about all this.
This gives some information.
http://www.etatcivil.gouv.qc.ca/en/cert ... y-act.html
If you know the date and place, you could check the Montreal newspapers for obituaries but I don’t think they are online.
Quebec
In Quebec, the civil registers of births (baptisms), marriages and deaths (burials), which date from 1621, were duplicate copies of the church registers. All of the pre-1900 records can be consulted at each of the nine regional offices of Bibliothèque et Archives nationales du Québec.
Those registers were microfilmed by the Family History LibraryTM and are available through that institution.
Records dating from 1900 are in the custody of the under-noted office:
Ministère de la Justice
Directeur de l'état civil [www.etatcivil.gouv.qc.ca/en/default.html]
2535, boulevard Laurier
Sainte-Foy, QC
G1V 5C5
A general index for marriages and deaths that occurred in the province of Quebec between 1926 and 1994 was prepared by the Société de généalogie de Québec. It is available on CD-ROM and can be consulted in many genealogical societies and libraries.
I will look up the name for you at ancestry.com as there is a database done for this time period I think. Let me know the name and I will search
Let me know if I can help.
David
This gives some information.
http://www.etatcivil.gouv.qc.ca/en/cert ... y-act.html
If you know the date and place, you could check the Montreal newspapers for obituaries but I don’t think they are online.
Quebec
In Quebec, the civil registers of births (baptisms), marriages and deaths (burials), which date from 1621, were duplicate copies of the church registers. All of the pre-1900 records can be consulted at each of the nine regional offices of Bibliothèque et Archives nationales du Québec.
Those registers were microfilmed by the Family History LibraryTM and are available through that institution.
Records dating from 1900 are in the custody of the under-noted office:
Ministère de la Justice
Directeur de l'état civil [www.etatcivil.gouv.qc.ca/en/default.html]
2535, boulevard Laurier
Sainte-Foy, QC
G1V 5C5
A general index for marriages and deaths that occurred in the province of Quebec between 1926 and 1994 was prepared by the Société de généalogie de Québec. It is available on CD-ROM and can be consulted in many genealogical societies and libraries.
I will look up the name for you at ancestry.com as there is a database done for this time period I think. Let me know the name and I will search
Let me know if I can help.
David
Re: Austegarden bruk II page 281 , Bøle ??
At first I thought there was a mistake but upon researching, I find that there seems to be two sons named Ole/Ola, one born in 1762 and one in 1757. Am I correct? And I believe they married two sisters!! Ingri and Ingeborg, respectively! Is there any information about the children of Aslak Olsen Hølle and Marit Olsdatter Ohlmus? Marriage?
Any answers or direction anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.
David Vinge
From the bygdebok for Bøle, farm no 1, page 106
Ola Aslakson Hølle, Hølle 2/6 born 1762, died 1824 got married in 1795 to Ingrid Knutsdotter Smedsrud. Hølerstre 53/2 born 1775 died 1859.
His baptism shows parents are Aslak Olsen Holden and Marit Olsd. (Holden=Hølle??)
Bildestørrelse: Bildeinformasjon: Vis sidehode: Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 4 (1730-1762), Fødte og døpte 1762, side 585-586.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-361
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 910200.jpg
From Bygdebok for Austegarden bruk II page 281
Pål Gulbrandson was once more the sole owner of bruk II in 1768 when he sold the farm to Aslak Olson Hølle at the price of 1005 riksdaler.
Aslak Olson Hølle was married to Marit Olsdotter Ølmhus and was previous owner of Hølle 2/ for further information see there.
Aslak Olson sold the farm to his son Ola Aslakson in 1786 at the price of 699 riksdaler. Ola Aslakson born 1757, died 1815 got married in 1790 to Ingebjørg Knutsdotter Smedsrud, Hølersetre 53/2 born 1773, died 1821.
This Ole Aslaksen is baptised on 25 Sep 1757 (p. 509). Parents are Aslak Olsen and Marit Olsdatr.
ldeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 4 (1730-1762), Fødte og døpte 1757, side 508-509.
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Any answers or direction anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.
David Vinge
From the bygdebok for Bøle, farm no 1, page 106
Ola Aslakson Hølle, Hølle 2/6 born 1762, died 1824 got married in 1795 to Ingrid Knutsdotter Smedsrud. Hølerstre 53/2 born 1775 died 1859.
His baptism shows parents are Aslak Olsen Holden and Marit Olsd. (Holden=Hølle??)
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From Bygdebok for Austegarden bruk II page 281
Pål Gulbrandson was once more the sole owner of bruk II in 1768 when he sold the farm to Aslak Olson Hølle at the price of 1005 riksdaler.
Aslak Olson Hølle was married to Marit Olsdotter Ølmhus and was previous owner of Hølle 2/ for further information see there.
Aslak Olson sold the farm to his son Ola Aslakson in 1786 at the price of 699 riksdaler. Ola Aslakson born 1757, died 1815 got married in 1790 to Ingebjørg Knutsdotter Smedsrud, Hølersetre 53/2 born 1773, died 1821.
This Ole Aslaksen is baptised on 25 Sep 1757 (p. 509). Parents are Aslak Olsen and Marit Olsdatr.
ldeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Aurdal, Ministerialbok nr. 4 (1730-1762), Fødte og døpte 1757, side 508-509.
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Re: Austegarden bruk II page 281 , Bøle ??
Som info on Aslak Olsen Hølle and Marit Olsdatter Ølmhus here:
http://www.borgvinn.net/tronrud/wc01/wc01_490.htm
Best regards Aslak Tronrud
http://www.borgvinn.net/tronrud/wc01/wc01_490.htm
Best regards Aslak Tronrud