Who owns and funds FTM

[Dora Smith]

Here is what I gathered quickly on who owns and funds FTM, to write to on
chronic shortcomings of FTM.

FTM's ownership is a regular web. Grin. From my collection of notes:

I could use any clarification anyone can shed. But all the key players are
here!

--------------------------------

Genealogy.com owns FTM.

FTM was developed by Genealogy.com, which was then a subsidiary of A & E
television networks. Myfamily.com acquired Genealogy.com from A & E
Networks in 2003. MyFamily.com evolved from ancestry.com.

Broderbund owned FTM in 1998

2002 press release on FTM version 10: Broderbund was recently acquired by
Riverdeep, Inc.

press release on FTM version 11, 9/29/03 (which I thought was brand new)

Riverdeep - publisher of Broderbund brand productivity products. Their
wording, not mine.
Own the MyFamily.com network of internet properties, which includes:
MyFamily.com, Ancestry.com, Genealogy.com, Rootsweb.com

Ancestry.com is run by competent people, and Rootsweb is run by competent
people who care. It might be worth asking them who at Riverdeep would be
best to work with to fix the problems with FTM.

Riverdeep in Novato CA and Dublin Ireland. Owns The Print Shop. Owns
Broderbund and The Learning Company, Edmark Products, Destination Success.
Its executives may have more of a focus and experience with education than
genealogy. One marketing guy is from Dell, whose ideas of quality are
interesting.

Broderbund headquarters at Novado, CA. Offices in Dallas, Hiawatha, Iowa,
and Woburn, Massachusetts.

History of Broderbund.

In 2002, Riverdeep bought Broderbund from Gores Technology Group in LA.

Gores nurses failing companies to health then sells them.

Gores bought Broderbund from Mattel, Inc., in 2000; or rather, Gores bought
from Mattel The Learning Company of which Broderbund was part.

Broderbund was founded in 1980 by brothers Doug and Gary Carlston.

The Learning Company bought Broderbund in 1998 and was a disaster.

Gores took over the Learning Company, and divided it into three groups:

----> games, went to Ubi Soft on 2001

----> The Learning Co

----> Broderbund

Article from 2004 on FTM 12:

Through corporate marriages and other changes, FTM has been owned or
published by some combination of Banner Blue Software, Broderbund Software,
the Learning Co., Mattel and Genealogy.com. Today it is parented by
MyFamily.com and published by Encore Software.



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From Wikipedia:

MyFamily.com, Inc.
__NOTOC__

Myfamily.com, Inc. is an Internet company based in Provo, Utah, and the
largest for-profit genealogy company in the world. They run a growing
network of genealogy and family-related websites, including:
* Ancestry.com
* Ancestry.co.uk
* FamilyTreeMaker.com
* Genealogy.com
* HeritageMakers.com
* MyFamily.com
* RootsWeb.com

In addition to the sites above, MyFamily.com also runs FamilyHistory.com,
which contains some basic free information, but is mostly a portal to
Ancestry.com.

History
In May 1996, Infobases, Inc. invested in Ancestry, a 13-year old print
publishing company, and became its managing shareholder. Infobases later
acquired 100% of Ancestry from its original founder, John Sittner. By July
1997, Paul Allen and Dan Taggart were running Ancestry as a company
independent from Infobases and began building the world's largest online
genealogy database and subscription service. Ancestry.com changed its name
to MyFamily.com in November 1999.

MyFamily.com launched in December 1998, becoming one of the fastest growing
community web sites in history, gaining 1 million registered users in its
first 140 days. Led by CEO Curt Allen, the company raised more than $90
million in venture capital from investors such as Intel, CMGI, AOL, Kodak,
Compaq, Sorenson, Esnet, Vspring and Tango Partners. According to the New
York Times (Oct 2002), sales for 2002 were projected at $62 million. 2003
sales were $99 million. It is believed that Infobase Ventures still holds a
large percentage of stock in this privately-held company. [1]

Heritage Makers was acquired in September 2005[8], and the Ancestry.ca
website was opened on January 24, 2006[9]. In March 2006, MyFamily opened a
new office in Bellevue, Washington as part of the MyFamily business
unit[10]. Encounter Technologies was acquired in April 2006[11]. Heritage
Makers was sold in August 2006.[citation needed

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10/6/2004

Infobase Media Corporation Plans to Expand Following $1.15 Million Angel
Investment



SALT LAKE CITY, Oct. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Infobase Media Corporation, a leading
aggregator and marketer of digitally formatted audio and video content,
today announced it has raised $1.15 million from local angel investors.

Currently, Infobase Media focuses solely on the Latter-day Saint (LDS)
marketplace, primarily through its business unit LDSAudio.com. LDSAudio.com,
the leading distributor of audio books, talks and music in MP3 format, will
continue to provide a great variety of content for members of the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Recently, Deseret Book Company, the
largest LDS book retailer and publisher, selected LDSAudio.com as the sole
distributor for hundreds of Deseret Book's bestselling audio titles and
music tracks in digital audio form.

The additional funding has facilitated the addition of two new members to
Infobase Media's executive team. Douglas G. Smith has been named chief
executive officer, and Lee Gibbons joins the staff as the chief technology
officer and vice president of product development. With Paul Allen and Dan
Taggart as founders, Infobase Media is destined to succeed -- just like
their previous companies."

Paul Allen and Dan Taggart, former Ernst & Young Entrepreneurs of the Year
for Utah, founded Infobase Media Corporation in September 2003. The pair
also created Infobases, Ancestry.com, MyFamily.com, and 10x Marketing. Two
of their previous companies were ranked on the Inc. 500 list of
fastest-growing privately held companies in the United States (Infobases in
1996 and MyFamily.com in 2003).

About Infobase Media Corporation

Founded in 2004, Infobase Media Corporation makes valuable text, audio and
video content, in every field of human knowledge, available in digital
format. Deseret Book is a strategic partner with Infobase Media for content,
marketing and product distribution of text in MP3 format. Other content
providers include Brigham Young University, Meridian Magazine, Excel
Entertainment, Litchfield Associates, Prime Recording, Sounds of Zion, and
Sound Concepts. Created by Paul Allen and Dan Taggart, the makers of
Infobases, Ancestry.com(TM) and MyFamily.com(TM) and LDSAudio.com. Infobase
Media is a private company funded by private investors.

http://www.toolbarsoftware.com/advisors.htm

Paul Allen - Managing Partner of Infobase Ventures

Paul Allen is a serial/parallel entrepreneur. He has founded 2 Inc. 500
companies, MyFamily.com and Infobases, Inc, and several other
internet-related businesses. He loves the world of innovation and ideas and
is listed on three patent applications. He formed internet business
incubator Infobase Ventures in 2002.

Paul served as CEO of Infobases (a religious and educational CD-ROM
publisher) from 1990-1997 and as CEO of Ancestry.com from 1997-1998. In
1998, he conceived of and helped launch the MyFamily.com service to provide
private web sites for families. The efforts of the MyFamily.com founding
team were recognized in the Ernst & Young 2000 Entrepreneur of the Year
awards and by Technology Marketing Magazine who named MyFamily.com the Viral
Marketing company of the year.

Paul works with angel investors and venture capital firms to raise money for
his companies.

He has taught internet business formation classes at Utah Valley State
College and serves on the Board of the Utah Valley Entrepreneurial Forum. He
is a popular speaker at business schools and internet conferences.

He spent an exciting 19 months in Silicon Valley during the height of the
Internet boom. In 1999 Paul opened MyFamily.com's San Francisco office and
worked there in various roles until 2001. He championed the acquisitions of
Rootsweb and Ah-ha, a pay-per-click search engine, while VP of Corporate
Development. After returning to Utah in 2001 to help the company raise its
final round of venture capital, Paul served as Vice President Marketing,
managing all internet subscription efforts for Ancestry.com. In 2004,
MyFamily.com's revenue reached $123 million. The company has been profitable
since late 2001.



-------------------------

PROVO, Utah, Sept. 19 2005 /PRNewswire/ -- MyFamily.com, Inc., the leading
network for connecting families with their histories and with one another,
announced today the appointment of Tim Sullivan as the company's president
and
chief executive officer. A rapidly growing Internet business, MyFamily
helps
individuals find the people most important to them and to share their unique
family stories. In his new role Sullivan will be responsible for the
direction, overall financial performance, and all operational functions of
the
company.

Sullivan most recently was chief executive officer for Match.com, the
global leader in online dating and an operating business of
IAC/InterActiveCorp. Under Sullivan's leadership, Match.com achieved
recognition as the clear leader in the U.S. online dating market, while
expanding globally into 29 local language dating markets.

Prior to joining Match.com, Sullivan served as vice president of
e-commerce for Ticketmaster's predecessor, Ticketmaster Online-Citysearch,
Inc. Before joining Ticketmaster, Sullivan spent seven years at The Walt
Disney Company...

From MyFamilyInc.com

Management Team

Key Contacts
Julia Burgon
Coltrin & Associates for Ancestry.com
Phone: (212) 221-1616 ext. 124
Email: [email protected]

Management

Tim Sullivan
President and Chief Executive Officer

David H. Rinn
Chief Financial Officer

Daren Thayne
Chief Technology Officer

Katherine R. Lofft
General Counsel

Michael Graff
Senior Vice President, Product

Andrew Wait
Senior Vice President of Marketing

PROVO, Utah, March 27 /PRNewswire/ -- MyFamily.com, Inc., the leading
network for connecting families on the Web, announced today the appointment
of Andrew Wait as Senior Vice President of Marketing. Andrew was most
recently Senior Director of Marketing, at Kodak Gallery (formerly known as
Ofoto), an online photo printing and sharing network.

Contact MyFamily

MyFamily.com, Inc. Corporate
360 West 4800 North
Provo, UT 84604
Phone: 801-705-7000
FAX: 801-705-7001
[email protected]

MyFamily.com, Bellevue Washington Office
11100 NE 8th Street, Suite 840
Bellevue, Washington 98004
Phone: 425-283-4000
FAX: 425-283-4001
[email protected]

MyFamily.com, London, UK Office
26-28 Hammersmith Grove
Hammersmith
London W6 7BA
Phone: (0) 208-834-1010
FAX: (0) 208-834-1110
[email protected]



------------------------------------------------------


From Riverdeep website:

Contact Us - Corporate Headquarters

Riverdeep


United States
Corporate Headquarters:
Riverdeep Inc., A Limited Liability Company
100 Pine Street, Suite 1900
San Francisco, CA 94111
Main Number: 415.659.2000
General Fax: 415.659.2020
E-mail: [email protected]

Riverdeep Inc., A Limited Liability Company
222 3rd Ave SE, 4th Floor
Cedar Rapids, IA 52401
Main Number: 319.395.9626
General Fax: 319.395.0217
Purchase Orders Fax: 800.567.2714
School Sales Phone: 888.242.6747
School Sales Fax: 800.567.2714


Ireland
Corporate Headquarters:
Riverdeep Interactive Learning Ltd
Styne House
Upper Hatch Street
Dublin 2
Phone: 353 1 6707570
Fax: 353 1 6707626

Riverdeep Development Studio
Digital Exchange Building
Sugar House Lane
Bellevue
Dublin 8

United Kingdom
Riverdeep UK Ltd
Richmond House
Heath Road
Hale WA14 2XP
Tel: 0845 050 2400
Fax: 0871 661 4779
E-mail: [email protected]
http://www.riverdeep-learning.co.uk


Founded in 1995, Riverdeep Inc., A Limited Liability Company, has offices
in San Francisco, California, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Dublin, Ireland and
Manchester, United Kingdom. It is the fastest growing education and consumer
software company in the United States.

Barry O'Callaghan - Executive Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Barry O'Callaghan is Chairman, CEO and controlling shareholder of Riverdeep
Holdings PLC. He has served as CEO of Riverdeep since 1999.

Jim Ruddy - Chief Revenue Officer

Jim Ruddy is Chief Revenue Officer at Riverdeep with responsibility for all
major revenue producing divisions within the company.

Tony Mulderry - Executive Vice President, Corporate Development

Tony Mulderry is responsible for all corporate development initiatives at
Riverdeep

Ciara Smyth - Executive Vice President, Global Business Operations

Ciara Smyth is Executive Vice President at Riverdeep with primary
responsibility for leading all aspects of the company's global human
resource function

Fiona O'Carroll - Executive Vice President, Marketing and Development

Fiona O' Carroll is Executive Vice President, Marketing and Development with
responsibility for all aspects of the company's marketing and product
development functions across all channels. Ms. O'Carroll has a proven track
record of success in product development, marketing and operational roles
within the international software industry.

Ms. O' Carroll joined Riverdeep in October 2002. She has extensive
experience in the educational software market and has worked with brands
such as Knowledge Adventure, Math Blaster and ADi. Prior to joining
Riverdeep, Ms O'Carroll enjoyed similar success managing a global product
development center for Vivendi Universal. Ms. O' Carroll is a graduate of
Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland where she received a Masters in Management
Practice and a BSc in Marketing.

Fiona O'Carroll Executive Vice President & General Manager, Dublin
Fiona O'Carroll joined Riverdeep in October 2002 with over 10 years of
senior management experience and a proven track record of success in product
development, marketing and operational roles within the international
software industry. Ms. O'Carroll also has extensive experience in the
educational software market having managed a global product development
center for Vivendi Universal and worked with brands such as Knowledge
Adventure, Math Blaster and Adi. Ms. O'Carroll has a Masters in Management
Practise and a BSc (Marketing) from Trinity College Dublin.


Jessica Lindl
Vice President, Marketing
Riverdeep

Joe Roberts, Riverdeep president of worldwide product development and
marketing. Shows up in press releases from 2003, released from San
Francisco, CA.

1. Riverdeep|About Us|Executive Team
http://www.riverdeep.com/about_us/inves ... ions_execu
Published on: 6/10/2003 Last Visited: 6/10/2003

Joe Roberts President, Worldwide Publishing & Marketing

Joe Roberts joined Riverdeep in August 2002 following the acquisition of
Broderbund where he served as President. Mr. Roberts brings a decade of
software development and management experience to Riverdeep. As President of
Broderbund, he was responsible for all aspects of the business including
strategic direction, growth, and profitability. Mr. Roberts has held senior
management positions in the software industry including Executive Vice
President and General Manager of The Learning Company, Senior Vice President
of Productivity Software at Mattel Interactive, and Vice President of
Software Development at Mindscape. Prior to Mindscape, Mr. Roberts spent
four years at Charles Schwab where he led the Software Product Development
teams in developing and marketing StreetSmart and http://www.Schwab.com. Mr.
Roberts holds a B.A. in Economics from U.C. Davis.



Garrett Power - Chief Financial Officer

Garrett Power is Chief Financial Officer at Riverdeep with responsibility
for overseeing all finance functions including planning, internal and
external reporting, tax, treasury, accounting and all legal relationships.

Gail Pierson - Chief Education Officer

Gail Elizabeth Pierson is currently serving as the Chief Education Officer

Scott L. Campbell - Executive Vice President for Strategic Sales

Scott Campbell joined Riverdeep in March 2006 as executive vice president
for strategic sales. A 20-year veteran of the technology industry, Mr.
Campbell's responsibilities are to develop and execute a national sales
strategy expanding Riverdeep sales throughout the U.S.

Mr. Campbell joined Riverdeep, from Dell, Inc. where he was the vice
president for education sales and was responsible for successfully expanding
Dell's sales and marketing leadership in K-12.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
[email protected]

--
Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
[email protected]

[Sherry]

"Dora Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

Here is what I gathered quickly on who owns and funds FTM, to write
to on chronic shortcomings of FTM.

<snip>

--------------------------------


FTM was developed by Genealogy.com,

WRONG! And the program has gone through even more hands that what you
indicated.

For a history of FTM (well, actually Paul Burchfield's association with
the program, but it goes to the founding of Banner Blue, the company
that developed FTM and the companies that acquired the program over the
years), go to http://www.love2tap.com/paul/index.php?p=29


FTM v2 DOS was my first genealogy computer program - I purchased it in
1993.

Sherry

I have a

[[email protected]]

Sherry wrote:

"Dora Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

Here is what I gathered quickly on who owns and funds FTM, to write
to on chronic shortcomings of FTM.

snip
--------------------------------


FTM was developed by Genealogy.com,



WRONG! And the program has gone through even more hands that what you
indicated.

Sherry, of course she is wrong !

What is worst is that had she simply checked the archives she would
have seen that none of this is new- even her complaints about FTM's
shortcomings are just re-hashed complaints we've heard for years made
by several others who also started a campaign against FTM; and they all
got nowhere.

If this is an example of Dora's research skills I shudder to think what
may be in her genealogy files.

--
The Verminator

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

On 8 Oct 2006 22:01:21 -0700, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> declaimed the following in
soc.genealogy.computing:

If this is an example of Dora's research skills I shudder to think what
may be in her genealogy files.

One can only pray it isn't all as bad as some of the items in
mine... I've just sent an email to someone who had contacted me --
supplying the information -- two years ago... I ran a TMG audit and
found an individual in the supplied data with a DoB 77 years after her
father's death... <G>

{I've also got a merged individual who seems to have become a bigamist,
and a sailor -- given that the children alternate in terms of mothers,
years, and place... Sail to Europe, have a fling, sail back to the
Americas, greet the last new one, and repeat the cycle}
--
bieber.genealogy Dennis Lee Bieber
HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:47:37 -0500, Sherry <[email protected]> wrote:

WRONG! And the program has gone through even more hands that what you
indicated.

For a history of FTM (well, actually Paul Burchfield's association with
the program, but it goes to the founding of Banner Blue, the company
that developed FTM and the companies that acquired the program over the
years), go to http://www.love2tap.com/paul/index.php?p=29


FTM v2 DOS was my first genealogy computer program - I purchased it in
1993.

Sherry

Well, someone other than me remembers the Banner Blue days and Paul
Burchfield. After Banner Blue you had to buy a program to tell who
owned FTM. Dropping UFT and FO was like keeping the bath water and
throwing out the babies.

I 'spect Cheryl, Bruce B. and Bob V. will admit to having blown out 21
candles on their birthday cake, too.

Hugh

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:27:22 GMT, Dennis Lee Bieber
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 8 Oct 2006 22:01:21 -0700, "[email protected]"
[email protected]> declaimed the following in
soc.genealogy.computing:

If this is an example of Dora's research skills I shudder to think what
may be in her genealogy files.

One can only pray it isn't all as bad as some of the items in
mine... I've just sent an email to someone who had contacted me --
supplying the information -- two years ago... I ran a TMG audit and
found an individual in the supplied data with a DoB 77 years after her
father's death... <G

With sperm banks, wouldn't that be possible now?

{I've also got a merged individual who seems to have become a bigamist,

Bigamist - isn't that having two wives too many?

If I want my wife to know I sid that, I'll tell her. Thank you.

Hugh

[singhals]

J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:

On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:47:37 -0500, Sherry <[email protected]> wrote:


WRONG! And the program has gone through even more hands that what you
indicated.

For a history of FTM (well, actually Paul Burchfield's association with
the program, but it goes to the founding of Banner Blue, the company
that developed FTM and the companies that acquired the program over the
years), go to http://www.love2tap.com/paul/index.php?p=29


FTM v2 DOS was my first genealogy computer program - I purchased it in
1993.

Sherry


Well, someone other than me remembers the Banner Blue days and Paul
Burchfield. After Banner Blue you had to buy a program to tell who
owned FTM. Dropping UFT and FO was like keeping the bath water and
throwing out the babies.

I 'spect Cheryl, Bruce B. and Bob V. will admit to having blown out 21
candles on their birthday cake, too.

Hugh

Bob and Bruce can speak for themselves. (g)

Remember back when BB became Broderbund and we all wondered if
Broderbund was Swedish for BannerBlue?

Personally, I'm just glad my great-grandmother's 2nd step-mother's first
husband's 1st wife's kids *aren't* related to me....

Cheryl

[[email protected]]

singhals wrote:

Personally, I'm just glad my great-grandmother's 2nd step-mother's first
husband's 1st wife's kids *aren't* related to me....

Cheryl

Cheryl, haven't you been paying attention... they *are* related to you;
they are your first cousins-in-law by marriage thrice removed !! <GRIN>

--
The Verminator

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:07:40 -0400, singhals <[email protected]>
wrote:

J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:

On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:47:37 -0500, Sherry <[email protected]> wrote:


WRONG! And the program has gone through even more hands that what you
indicated.

For a history of FTM (well, actually Paul Burchfield's association with
the program, but it goes to the founding of Banner Blue, the company
that developed FTM and the companies that acquired the program over the
years), go to http://www.love2tap.com/paul/index.php?p=29


FTM v2 DOS was my first genealogy computer program - I purchased it in
1993.

Sherry


Well, someone other than me remembers the Banner Blue days and Paul
Burchfield. After Banner Blue you had to buy a program to tell who
owned FTM. Dropping UFT and FO was like keeping the bath water and
throwing out the babies.

I 'spect Cheryl, Bruce B. and Bob V. will admit to having blown out 21
candles on their birthday cake, too.

Hugh


Bob and Bruce can speak for themselves. (g)

....and John Alden?

Remember back when BB became Broderbund and we all wondered if
Broderbund was Swedish for BannerBlue?

I thought it was a German typo for an increasing backside measurement.

Personally, I'm just glad my great-grandmother's 2nd step-mother's first
husband's 1st wife's kids *aren't* related to me....

Cheryl

You don't have a program with an All-Star ancestor report either?

Hugh

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 12:07:43 GMT, [email protected] (J. Hugh Sullivan)
declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.computing:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:27:22 GMT, Dennis Lee Bieber
[email protected]> wrote:
One can only pray it isn't all as bad as some of the items in
mine... I've just sent an email to someone who had contacted me --
supplying the information -- two years ago... I ran a TMG audit and
found an individual in the supplied data with a DoB 77 years after her
father's death... <G

With sperm banks, wouldn't that be possible now?

I don't think any sperm banks go back that far -- and the father

died around the war of 1812 time-frame <G>

--
bieber.genealogy Dennis Lee Bieber
HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

[f/fgeorge]

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:24:40 GMT, Dennis Lee Bieber
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 12:07:43 GMT, [email protected] (J. Hugh Sullivan)
declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.computing:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:27:22 GMT, Dennis Lee Bieber
[email protected]> wrote:
One can only pray it isn't all as bad as some of the items in
mine... I've just sent an email to someone who had contacted me --
supplying the information -- two years ago... I ran a TMG audit and
found an individual in the supplied data with a DoB 77 years after her
father's death... <G

With sperm banks, wouldn't that be possible now?

I don't think any sperm banks go back that far -- and the father
died around the war of 1812 time-frame <G

And most public reputable sperm banks are anonymous.

[Allen]

J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:07:40 -0400, singhals <[email protected]
wrote:


J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:


On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:47:37 -0500, Sherry <[email protected]> wrote:



WRONG! And the program has gone through even more hands that what you
indicated.

For a history of FTM (well, actually Paul Burchfield's association with
the program, but it goes to the founding of Banner Blue, the company
that developed FTM and the companies that acquired the program over the
years), go to http://www.love2tap.com/paul/index.php?p=29


FTM v2 DOS was my first genealogy computer program - I purchased it in
1993.

Sherry


Well, someone other than me remembers the Banner Blue days and Paul
Burchfield. After Banner Blue you had to buy a program to tell who
owned FTM. Dropping UFT and FO was like keeping the bath water and
throwing out the babies.

I 'spect Cheryl, Bruce B. and Bob V. will admit to having blown out 21
candles on their birthday cake, too.

Hugh


Bob and Bruce can speak for themselves. (g)


...and John Alden?


Remember back when BB became Broderbund and we all wondered if
Broderbund was Swedish for BannerBlue?


I thought it was a German typo for an increasing backside measurement.



Personally, I'm just glad my great-grandmother's 2nd step-mother's first
husband's 1st wife's kids *aren't* related to me....

Cheryl


You don't have a program with an All-Star ancestor report either?

Hugh

For some real pre-history--

Back in the 1980s I used a Banner Blue program--OrgChartPlus, I believe
it was named--which I used to generate organization charts. This was
long before windows, and the graphics tricks it could handle were very,
very good for its time. One of the programs in the package was named
org.asm--perhaps that's what put them in mind of developing a genealogy
program.
Allen

[Everett M. Greene]

[email protected] (J. Hugh Sullivan) writes:

{I've also got a merged individual who seems to have become a bigamist,

Bigamist - isn't that having two wives too many?

If I want my wife to know I said that, I'll tell her. Thank you.

Wimp! Tell her how you feel and inform her that if
she doesn't like it, she knows what she can do about
it. She's kept around to provide appropriate home
services and if she doesn't do it properly, she can
be replaced by a younger, sleeker model.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:59:58 PST, [email protected]
(Everett M. Greene) wrote:

[email protected] (J. Hugh Sullivan) writes:

{I've also got a merged individual who seems to have become a bigamist,

Bigamist - isn't that having two wives too many?

If I want my wife to know I said that, I'll tell her. Thank you.

Wimp! Tell her how you feel and inform her that if
she doesn't like it, she knows what she can do about
it.

I did that once - wanna see the scars? Don't mess with Eliott Ness and
auburn haired gals.

She's kept around to provide appropriate home
services and if she doesn't do it properly,

If she doesn't nobody can.

she can
be replaced by a younger, sleeker model.

I would have to go through all that training again - no way.

Hugh

[singhals]

[email protected] wrote:

singhals wrote:

Personally, I'm just glad my great-grandmother's 2nd step-mother's first
husband's 1st wife's kids *aren't* related to me....

Cheryl


Cheryl, haven't you been paying attention... they *are* related to you;
they are your first cousins-in-law by marriage thrice removed !! <GRIN

Well, remove 'em, AGIN, dang it!!

Cheryl

[singhals]

J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:07:40 -0400, singhals <[email protected]
wrote:


J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:


On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:47:37 -0500, Sherry <[email protected]> wrote:



WRONG! And the program has gone through even more hands that what you
indicated.

For a history of FTM (well, actually Paul Burchfield's association with
the program, but it goes to the founding of Banner Blue, the company
that developed FTM and the companies that acquired the program over the
years), go to http://www.love2tap.com/paul/index.php?p=29


FTM v2 DOS was my first genealogy computer program - I purchased it in
1993.

Sherry


Well, someone other than me remembers the Banner Blue days and Paul
Burchfield. After Banner Blue you had to buy a program to tell who
owned FTM. Dropping UFT and FO was like keeping the bath water and
throwing out the babies.

I 'spect Cheryl, Bruce B. and Bob V. will admit to having blown out 21
candles on their birthday cake, too.

Hugh


Bob and Bruce can speak for themselves. (g)


...and John Alden?


Remember back when BB became Broderbund and we all wondered if
Broderbund was Swedish for BannerBlue?


I thought it was a German typo for an increasing backside measurement.



Personally, I'm just glad my great-grandmother's 2nd step-mother's first
husband's 1st wife's kids *aren't* related to me....

Cheryl


You don't have a program with an All-Star ancestor report either?

Hugh

Yeah, I do, but I figured out to make it not-do that. (g)

Cheryl

[singhals]

Allen wrote:

J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:07:40 -0400, singhals <[email protected]
wrote:


J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:


On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:47:37 -0500, Sherry <[email protected]> wrote:



WRONG! And the program has gone through even more hands that what
you indicated.

For a history of FTM (well, actually Paul Burchfield's association
with the program, but it goes to the founding of Banner Blue, the
company that developed FTM and the companies that acquired the
program over the years), go to
http://www.love2tap.com/paul/index.php?p=29


FTM v2 DOS was my first genealogy computer program - I purchased it
in 1993.

Sherry



Well, someone other than me remembers the Banner Blue days and Paul
Burchfield. After Banner Blue you had to buy a program to tell who
owned FTM. Dropping UFT and FO was like keeping the bath water and
throwing out the babies.

I 'spect Cheryl, Bruce B. and Bob V. will admit to having blown out 21
candles on their birthday cake, too.

Hugh



Bob and Bruce can speak for themselves. (g)



...and John Alden?


Remember back when BB became Broderbund and we all wondered if
Broderbund was Swedish for BannerBlue?



I thought it was a German typo for an increasing backside measurement.



Personally, I'm just glad my great-grandmother's 2nd step-mother's
first husband's 1st wife's kids *aren't* related to me....

Cheryl



You don't have a program with an All-Star ancestor report either?

Hugh


For some real pre-history--

Back in the 1980s I used a Banner Blue program--OrgChartPlus, I believe
it was named--which I used to generate organization charts. This was
long before windows, and the graphics tricks it could handle were very,
very good for its time. One of the programs in the package was named
org.asm--perhaps that's what put them in mind of developing a genealogy
program.
Allen

ROTFL!! You've got my vote for post-of-the-day!

Cheryl

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:48:21 -0400, singhals <[email protected]>
wrote:

Allen wrote:



J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:07:40 -0400, singhals <[email protected]
wrote:


J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:


On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:47:37 -0500, Sherry <[email protected]> wrote:



WRONG! And the program has gone through even more hands that what
you indicated.

For a history of FTM (well, actually Paul Burchfield's association
with the program, but it goes to the founding of Banner Blue, the
company that developed FTM and the companies that acquired the
program over the years), go to
http://www.love2tap.com/paul/index.php?p=29


FTM v2 DOS was my first genealogy computer program - I purchased it
in 1993.

Sherry



Well, someone other than me remembers the Banner Blue days and Paul
Burchfield. After Banner Blue you had to buy a program to tell who
owned FTM. Dropping UFT and FO was like keeping the bath water and
throwing out the babies.

I 'spect Cheryl, Bruce B. and Bob V. will admit to having blown out 21
candles on their birthday cake, too.

Hugh



Bob and Bruce can speak for themselves. (g)



...and John Alden?


Remember back when BB became Broderbund and we all wondered if
Broderbund was Swedish for BannerBlue?



I thought it was a German typo for an increasing backside measurement.



Personally, I'm just glad my great-grandmother's 2nd step-mother's
first husband's 1st wife's kids *aren't* related to me....

Cheryl



You don't have a program with an All-Star ancestor report either?

Hugh


For some real pre-history--

Back in the 1980s I used a Banner Blue program--OrgChartPlus, I believe
it was named--which I used to generate organization charts. This was
long before windows, and the graphics tricks it could handle were very,
very good for its time. One of the programs in the package was named
org.asm--perhaps that's what put them in mind of developing a genealogy
program.
Allen



ROTFL!! You've got my vote for post-of-the-day!

Cheryl

You like posts that bring back memories?

Of course I was talking about Banner Blue!

Hugh

[Everett M. Greene]

[email protected] (J. Hugh Sullivan) writes:

[email protected] (Everett M. Greene) wrote:
[email protected] (J. Hugh Sullivan) writes:

{I've also got a merged individual who seems to have become a bigamist,

Bigamist - isn't that having two wives too many?

If I want my wife to know I said that, I'll tell her. Thank you.

Wimp! Tell her how you feel and inform her that if
she doesn't like it, she knows what she can do about
it.

I did that once - wanna see the scars? Don't mess with
Eliott Ness and auburn haired gals.

I know what you mean. Wives are tough enough but mothers
can get downright mean if someone crosses them. They
don't take any crap from anyone...

She's kept around to provide appropriate home
services and if she doesn't do it properly,

If she doesn't nobody can.

she can
be replaced by a younger, sleeker model.

I would have to go through all that training again - no way.

Your training her or vice versa?

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:47:09 PST,
[email protected] (Everett M. Greene) wrote:

[email protected] (J. Hugh Sullivan) writes:
[email protected] (Everett M. Greene) wrote:
[email protected] (J. Hugh Sullivan) writes:

{I've also got a merged individual who seems to have become a bigamist,

Bigamist - isn't that having two wives too many?

If I want my wife to know I said that, I'll tell her. Thank you.

Wimp! Tell her how you feel and inform her that if
she doesn't like it, she knows what she can do about
it.

I did that once - wanna see the scars? Don't mess with
Eliott Ness and auburn haired gals.

I know what you mean. Wives are tough enough but mothers
can get downright mean if someone crosses them. They
don't take any crap from anyone...

She's kept around to provide appropriate home
services and if she doesn't do it properly,

If she doesn't nobody can.

she can
be replaced by a younger, sleeker model.

I would have to go through all that training again - no way.

Your training her or vice versa?

She's been training me for 58 years and I still can't get it right.

Hugh

[Dora Smith]

Thanks! I can use all the information I can get.

--
Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
[email protected]
"Sherry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

"Dora Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

Here is what I gathered quickly on who owns and funds FTM, to write
to on chronic shortcomings of FTM.

snip
--------------------------------


FTM was developed by Genealogy.com,



WRONG! And the program has gone through even more hands that what you
indicated.

For a history of FTM (well, actually Paul Burchfield's association with
the program, but it goes to the founding of Banner Blue, the company
that developed FTM and the companies that acquired the program over the
years), go to http://www.love2tap.com/paul/index.php?p=29


FTM v2 DOS was my first genealogy computer program - I purchased it in
1993.

Sherry

I have a

[Dora Smith]

I have my silly question of tonight.

Who's Paul Burchfield? The page below gives teh idea he's worked for teh
entire web of genealogical companies, but never explains who he is.

--
Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
[email protected]
"Sherry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

"Dora Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

Here is what I gathered quickly on who owns and funds FTM, to write
to on chronic shortcomings of FTM.

For a history of FTM (well, actually Paul Burchfield's association with
the program, but it goes to the founding of Banner Blue, the company
that developed FTM and the companies that acquired the program over the
years), go to http://www.love2tap.com/paul/index.php?p=29

[Dora Smith]

I have close relatives who aren't related to me, too, but they still have be
included in the genealogy.

Relatives who you know are spawn of aliens or low forms of life are part of
the problem of the Dark Father. You can either know him, or BE him.

--
Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
[email protected]

Personally, I'm just glad my great-grandmother's 2nd step-mother's first
husband's 1st wife's kids *aren't* related to me....

Cheryl

[Dora Smith]

Naw, Verminator, they're steps and cousins, and don't belong in the family
history, remember?

I had to find what in the world you had to say on this thread.

--
Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
[email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

singhals wrote:

Personally, I'm just glad my great-grandmother's 2nd step-mother's first
husband's 1st wife's kids *aren't* related to me....

Cheryl

Cheryl, haven't you been paying attention... they *are* related to you;
they are your first cousins-in-law by marriage thrice removed !! <GRIN

--
The Verminator

[Dora Smith]

But how well did your great grandmother and her siblings, and the children
of her father's second wife by her first husband, know each other? Did
children of her father's second wife by her first husband raise some of her
children, or account for where she worked or lived? Did they all ahve
similar occupations; for instance, did they all either become or marry
Quaker ministers?

Grin! From the sound of it, they kind of sought their own level in the
bottom of some pond, but I had to make my point!

--
Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
[email protected]
"J. Hugh Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:07:40 -0400, singhals <[email protected]
wrote:

J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:

On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:47:37 -0500, Sherry <[email protected]> wrote:


WRONG! And the program has gone through even more hands that what you
indicated.

For a history of FTM (well, actually Paul Burchfield's association with
the program, but it goes to the founding of Banner Blue, the company
that developed FTM and the companies that acquired the program over the
years), go to http://www.love2tap.com/paul/index.php?p=29


FTM v2 DOS was my first genealogy computer program - I purchased it in
1993.

Sherry


Well, someone other than me remembers the Banner Blue days and Paul
Burchfield. After Banner Blue you had to buy a program to tell who
owned FTM. Dropping UFT and FO was like keeping the bath water and
throwing out the babies.

I 'spect Cheryl, Bruce B. and Bob V. will admit to having blown out 21
candles on their birthday cake, too.

Hugh


Bob and Bruce can speak for themselves. (g)

...and John Alden?

Remember back when BB became Broderbund and we all wondered if
Broderbund was Swedish for BannerBlue?

I thought it was a German typo for an increasing backside measurement.


Personally, I'm just glad my great-grandmother's 2nd step-mother's first
husband's 1st wife's kids *aren't* related to me....

Cheryl

You don't have a program with an All-Star ancestor report either?

Hugh

[Dora Smith]

All Star Ancestor Report?! After playing with it a little bit, I would
figure that that would be FTM! They even include a set of reference books
of such things as famous American politicians and whatever so you can learn
who your all-star ancestors are!

--
Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
[email protected]
"Allen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

You don't have a program with an All-Star ancestor report either?

Hugh

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:20:40 GMT, "Dora Smith"
<[email protected]> wrote:

But how well did your great grandmother and her siblings, and the children
of her father's second wife by her first husband, know each other? Did
children of her father's second wife by her first husband raise some of her
children, or account for where she worked or lived? Did they all ahve
similar occupations; for instance, did they all either become or marry
Quaker ministers?

Grin! From the sound of it, they kind of sought their own level in the
bottom of some pond, but I had to make my point!

If one believes in evolution that would be accurate. So why haven't
you evolved?

You don't really want to get in the insult swapping game with me.
You're not even a challenge.

Seems to me like you get more respect at soc.cathouse.genealogy.than
you have here.

I hope you get the report you want. I would like to see what
Neanderthal names were besides Dora.

I'll be gone for 2 weeks. Hold your thoughts.

Hugh

[Sherry]

"Dora Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

I have my silly question of tonight.

Who's Paul Burchfield? The page below gives teh idea he's worked
for teh entire web of genealogical companies, but never explains who
he is.

Paul was the customer support person for FTM for many years. I had many
email conversations with him when I was using the program.

Sherry

[Hugh Watkins]

Dora Smith wrote:

Here is what I gathered quickly on who owns and funds FTM, to write to on
chronic shortcomings of FTM.

very simple :-
OWNERSHIP of FTM


MyFamily.com, Inc. Facts & Figures

MyFamily.com, Inc. provides the largest collection of online information
for connecting families with their histories and with one another. The
company’s tools, content and community help empower individuals to find
the people most important to them and to share their unique family stories.

* Founded more than 20 years ago
* Launched company’s first online subscription site in the US in
1997 (Ancestry.com)
* Over 6 billion records including all publicly-available US
Censuses (1790-1930), the largest collection of immigrant passenger
lists and ship photos, newspapers and many other original source documents
* 10 million unique site visitors each month

FUNDED BY A GREAT CASH FLOW

* 800,000 paying members worldwide

<<
started with magazines and went digital

click on about us or corporate info
at the bottom of any of their web pages

http://www.myfamilyinc.com/default.aspx


read the careers and vacancies to get an idea about what is going on

http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/Company-Profil ... m-Inc_9058


enjoy

Hugh W



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