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Thank you Linda. I appreciate your help.

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Could I please have translation help with the following record? (I need the whole record translated, please.)
SAKO, Kongsberg kirkebøker, G/Ga/L0002: Klokkerbok nr. 2, 1839-1858, s. 514-515
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1100/232
Page 514, no. 33 Jörgen

gj01576

Thanks, Vidar.

gj01576

Hi, Vivi.

Thank you so much for all these links!

Oline and Samuel travelled with Emanuel's neice, Amalia, and her husband, Julius. Immigrants weren't allowed more than 4 children, so they travelled as the (pretend) children Of Julius and Amalia.

Oline was my Gt grandmother.

gj01576

Thank you Vivi.

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Oh, dear. I've only just found your reply. Many thanks.

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I am trying to locate the christening records for the children of Emanuel FREDRIKSSON & Helena ERICSDOTTER. Emanuel & Helena were Swedish, but lived in Norway prior to emigrating to New Zealand. They were dissenters (Wesleyan/Methodist) which is probably why I cannot find them. The informati...

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Thanks, Vidar.

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Thanks, Vidar.

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I have been trying to find a christening record for Morten Valdemar FREDERIKSEN/MORTENSEN , son of Johan Frederik MORTENSEN (known as Frederik) & Anne Marie HALVORSDATTER . Here are all their children (which may give some clues): 1) Marthe Mathilde christened 16 May 1853, Den Norske Kirke, Gamle...

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Thanks for the correction

. I will update my information.

gj01576

Thanks for your explanation, Bent.

Name changes make genealogy much harder!

gj01576

Thanks, Vidar. That pretty much confirms it.

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So, if Ole OLSEN was born at Lundhaug, why would he have changed this to Lund?

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Thank you, Bent. I've looked many times without success. Well done.

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Could someone please help me with information on Ole Olsen LUND & his wife Ingeborg Marie JOHANNESEN ? So far, I have been unable to find any birth/parents/census/marriage for either of them. Ole Olsen LUND (as he was known in New Zealand) was listed in the emigration records as Ole Olsen LUNDHA...

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I am looking for the Parish Emigration records for the same people. I have their emigration records from Digitalarkivet. They are recorded as being from Eidskog, but suspect this is an error (or, maybe, it's a clue?). Is there any way of checking the original documents? Julie ANDERSEN: m 25386 Oslo ...

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Thanks for looking, Vidar. I'd searched for ages with no luck, but didn't realise there were records missing.

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Could I please have help finding the following family in the 1865 census? I would especially like to locate Julie CHRISTIANSDATTER/ANDERSEN , Lovise CHRISTIANSDATTER/ANDERSEN , Amalie CHRISTIANSDATTER/ANDERSEN (all of whom came to New Zealand), and their parents, Christian ANDERSEN & Kirstine KN...

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I am trying to find out what happened to Emma , daughter of Hans ANDERSEN SKARPHOLT and Juliane ERIKSDATTER SYVERSTAD : Emma was born and christened 1865 in Sarpsborg: m (no. 97) Found in 1865 census in Sannesund eller Torve - Gaden, Sarpsborg with mother Juliane: m Not with parents at emigration in...

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Good idea, Vidar. Thanks.

I have continued the thread here:
https://slektsforum.slektogdata.no/view ... hp?t=86822

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Thanks, Vidar.

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Can anyone help with the children marked *? I'd like to find out what happened to them. Children of Hans ANDERSEN SKARPHOLT and Helvig NIELSDATTER : * Peter Anton b. 1848 in Borge - may have gone to the United States, but cannot find death/emigration. Maren Sofie b. 1850 in Østfold; d. 1850 in Skjeb...

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Thanks, Vidar! I'd spent days looking for them without success. I appreciate your help.

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I am trying to find the birth records for Hans' and Juliane's children as follows: Hans (born about 1869) Jennie Marie (born about 1871/1872) I haven't been able to determine where/when they were born, but have the following records which may help: Hans ANDERSEN - their father - born 21 Dec 1824 in ...

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Could someone please help me find the parish christening record for Johan Edvard (CHRISTENSEN) WINGER? I have th following info: m Birth: 26 JUL 1833 Christening: 01 SEP 1833 Festningen, Oslo, Akershus, Norway Father: Christen CHRISTIANSEN WINGER Mother: Ratine Marie JOHANSDATTER SMITH Thank you.

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I am trying to find, in Norwegian parish records, birth/death records for children of the above couple. Unnamed baby Born and died 27 Jan 1866, Grønland, Oslo, Norway: m Anne Inga Born about 1869 according to emigration record (below). Inga Lise Born about 1871, Oslo m They also had a son named Gust...

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I found this record which might account for the death of Han's first wife, Johanne OLSDATTER: Østfold fylke, Rakkestad, Ministerialbok nr. I 8 (1842-1849), Døde og begravede 1846, side 977-978. m Died 28 Aug 1846; buried 02 Sep 1846, See no. 61. I cannot read Norwegian and am wondering if there is a...

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Thank you for the above information, Vivi.

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Hans ANDERSEN, his second wife, Juliane ERIKSDATTER, and 4 of their children, emigrated from Norway to New Zealand in 1872, per ship "Høvding": m I am seeking the following information: 1. Hans' parents (his father was Anders ANDERSEN) and date and place of birth. 2. His date of death in NZ. I think...

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Hans ANDERSEN, his second wife, Juliane ERIKSDATTER, and 4 of their children, emigrated from Norway to New Zealand in 1872, per ship "Høvding": m I am seeking the following information: 1. Hans' parents (his father was Anders ANDERSEN) and date and place of birth. 2. His date of death in NZ. I think...

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Here's an excellent reason to visit New Zealand! It's a whole year away, so there's plenty of time to get organised.

This festival is a celebration of Scandinavian cultures(s).

For more information see
http://www.scandinavianfestival.org.nz

Please send this link to anyone who might be interested.

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Thanks, Gry.

This helps build a profile.

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Thank you! This is a huge breakthrough.

I see that Anders THORESEN was christened in Oslo. Does this mean that Anders parents also moved to Oslo? (If so, I think I may have found some siblings.)

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There is something about August Severin Dyvart INGVALDSEN, written in Norwegian (which I cannot read), here:
Norsk retstidende, Volume 28, By Norges advokatforbund, Norske advokat- og sagførerforening, Norway. Høiesteret, p289:
http://books.google.com/books?id=AIsYAA ... en&f=false

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I am looking for the birth/christening record of Anders THORESEN, as above, and have started a thread in the Nord-Aurdal, Oppland, forum:
https://slektsforum.slektogdata.no/view ... p?p=367418

Thank you.

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I would be grateful for any help in finding the birth/christening of Anders THORESEN born Bergum, Skrautval, Nord-Aurdal, Valdres, Oppland, Norway, sometime between 1824 and 1833. Anders may have been christened Kristian Anders THORESEN, but was known as Anders. He is supposed to have been given the...

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I have been gathering information on the family of Ingvald SŸVERSEN and Berthe DŸRESDATTER who came to New Zealand from Christiania in 1873 aboard the "Høvding". The info I have on this family can be found here: http://www.norsewoodcemetery.co.nz/syversen-ingvald-descendants/ Also, I have not been a...

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A while back, Lillian posted the following information which can be found at this link: Akershus fylke, Nes i Nes, Ministerialbok nr. I 8 (1859-1874), Utflyttede 1871, side 514 m Page 514, Emigration 09 May (RHS) ...Laurits Larsen Bjerknes, born 2/4, christening 29/5 1842, confirmed 4/10 1857... To ...

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Hi, Grethe Aud.

Thank you. This is great. I'd worked out the idea that they were brothers was probably a myth - one that's been passed down for generations!

I think it's actually quite funny.

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I am trying to research the family of Johannes ENGEBRETSEN and his wife, Inger Marie (possibly PEDERSDATTER). One source suggests that Johannes was born in Sweden. However, the people of Norsewood believed he was the brother of another settler, Engebret ENGEBRETSEN. In the book by Sten Aminoff, Sven...

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Hi, Kåre. Sorry, I haven't checked the forum for a while. If you do a parent search at Family Search ( http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp ) for Tryg PERSEN and Berte GUNDERSDATTER, you will find several children from the same family. There is an Anne (b. 1784) among them. The...

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For the sake of completion, I have learned that Bertel GUNDERSEN is NOT related to Anne Marie HALVORSDATTER or Maren HALVORSDATTER/GUNDERSEN.

See:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/top ... IC_ID=3302

gj01576

Thanks, Palmar.

I am in contact with a descendant of this family. I shall draw his attention to your post. I am sure he will be very pleased.

gj01576

Thanks, Vidar.

I'll keep checking.

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According to Martin's and Mina's marriage record (see link, above), Mina was born in Trysil (may have been in Søndre Osen, Trysil) in 1848. I have not been able to find online parish records for Trysil for any period covering 1848. Does that mean the records are not yet online, or should I be lookin...

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Thanks, Vidar.

Thanks, Palmar.

There's a lot to learn...

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Can someone please help me with the following? I have the marriage of Martin ANDERSEN and Mina CHRISTOPHERSDATTER here: Oslo fylke, Gamle Aker, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1873-1881), Ekteviede 1873, side 206. Marriage no. 93. m It says that Martin was born at Næs Romer Christiania. Is this Næs Romerike, ...

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Johan Fredrik MORTENSEN (known as Fredrik, I believe) and his wife Anne Marie Halvorsdatter are my great great grandparents.

I cannot read Norwegian, but if someone could translate the above for me, I'll see if I can help.

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Thanks for checking the Census, Laila. I thought it was worth a shot since Maren was missing from the Census. Back to the drawing board...

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Thanks, Laila. Next week is fine.

Yes, I thought it was normal to give birth at home. Food for thought!

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Hi, Laila. I was thinking about Maren being missing from the 1865 census. Is it possible to check the original documents? It may be that she's simply been missed by accident. Also, what was Rikshospitalet? I assume it was a hospital? Could that suggest obstetric complications (leading to inability t...

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Thanks, Palmar.

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I am still struggling to read the place names in church book records, but here's my best effort: Marriage of Thorvald BERGERSEN and Karen HANSDATTER: w _side=-234 Parish Register: Aurskog, Akershus, Norway: Ministerialbok I 7, 1854-1877 Page 202, Marriage no. 6, 1857 I think this reads: Ungkarl Torv...

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Thanks, Vidar.

David LARSEN has already made contact with me and we are trying to sort this out.

Yes, that is the same Hans JACOBSEN. I'll see if I can follow that up.

gj01576

Thanks, Vidar.

I had hoped there might be a simple answer. Oh, well...

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Could someone please tell me, what do crosses on Christening records mean?

For example, this page has several entires with crosses next to them.

I wondered if it meant the person had died, but one entry has 2 crosses.

gj01576

Thanks, Vidar.

I had the christening record, but hadn't made the connection. Thanks for pointing it out!

gj01576

Thanks, Vidar.

I had found these. Unfortunately, the records I need are not yet available.

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Hi, Vidar. Thanks for your reply. Yes, you have the right person in the census. I'm not sure exactly when she came to NZ. She may have married in 1875 in NZ, although I cannot prove whether or not it is the same person (yet). If she did marry in NZ in 1875, she married her 1st cousin, Hans JACOBSEN ...

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I have found the following information for Dorthea LARSDATTER LØVNESET who emigrated to NZ (along with many other members of her extended family): Dorthea Larsdatter Løvneset (F): m Dorthea Larsdatter Løvneset er datter av Lars Torstensen Havsjømoen og Kristine Hansdatter Vestavig. Barn av Dorthea L...

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Can anyone please help with a birth date for Thorvald BERGERSEN? I have birth date of about January 1825. Palmar has christening date of 20 February 1825 in Aurskog. Also, the family are recorded as leaving Aurskog in April 1873. Could someone please tell me, were the names of the children recorded ...

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Thanks, Palmar. This is very helpful, and I do appreciate your assistance.

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Thanks for your response, Palmar. Dortea was 3/12 years, meaning 3 months old. I haven't been able to find a christening record for her. (I wondered if she wasn't christened because the family left in haste for Kristiania/Oslo. I know some families spent a long time in Kristiania before the ship, Hø...

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Could I have some translation, and other help, with this family, please? I cannot decipher the place names and other names recorded for the following: Marriage of Thorvald BERGERSEN and Karen HANSDATTER: w Parish Register: Aurskog, Akershus, Norway: Ministerialbok I 7, 1854-1877 Page 202, Marriage n...

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Thank you, Lillian. This is great! I would never have guessed one of my ancestors had survived smallpox. Maybe his first wife did not?

Thanks, also, to Vidar for the translation help.

gj01576

Thanks, Lillian.

I really appreciate your help.

gj01576

Thanks, Vidar. That gives me somewhere to start!

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I have been unable to find any information on the the following family including their whereabouts in the 1865 Census. I am hoping to trace 2 generations, and would appreciate any help with breaking through this brick wall. The family leaving for New Zealand: m 25318 Oslo 457A 1872 30 Martin Hansen ...

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Thanks for all this, Lillian, and for the info you sent me by email. I am slowly getting it all entered into my database. I have recently made contact with Virginia (whom Vidar mentioned) and am sharing this information with her. She is delighted to have the ancestor information. Again, thank you.

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My best guess is that Maren Olava could be daughter of widow Ingeborg M.Larsd., who is supported by welfare: m 1205 32 1 Lars Amunds. Husf. Hmd. med Jord g 68 m Næs 2 2 1/8 1 1/4 1 1206 33 Maren Larsd. hans Kone g 69 k Næs 1207 1 Ingeborg M. Larsd. hans Datter e 37 k Næs understøttes af Fattigvæsene...

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Even though the birth place and date don't quite agree, this must be Maren PEDERSDATTER in the 1865 census - also at Bjerknæs:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... =6171#ovre
6171 14 Maren Pedersd. Tjenestepige ug 22 k Næs Prgj.

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I found the christening of Peter Lauritz, foster son (actually grandson) of Lars LARSEN and Berta TOSTENSDATTER. He is daughter of Thea LARSDATTER: Nes, Akershus, Norway: Ministerialbok I 8, 1859 - 1874, Page 45 (8th entry). m Peter Lauritz Born: 5 Aug 1864 Christ.: 11 Sep 1864 Could someone please ...

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Thank you so much, Lillian. You have gone to a lot of trouble to provide this information, and I really appreciate your effort.

I am working my way through the info and will post a link to the relevant part of my website when I am done.

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I tried to find the following birth/christening records to no avail: Elisabeth(Born 23/10 1845) and Thea (Born 4/4 1850) christening in Nes. Birthplace for Thea was Bjertnes(I belive that’s wrong written) and for Elisabeth Bjerknes. I locked at the Godparents and then I find them in the “Bygdebok” f...

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I tried to find the christening record for Karen LARSDATTER (see previous post), but have not been able to locate it. Am I looking in the right place? The page I think she should be on is here:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?s ... e=nei&ls=1

Thanks.

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Thank you Lillian and Vidar! This is a great help. I did a parents search at FamilySearch.org, and found another child for Lars LARSEN and Berta TOSTENSDATTER: Karen LARSEN m Christening: 06 SEP 1840 Nes, Akershus, Norway. I see she is found with her husband and one child in a separate dwelling on t...

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I cannot find the following family in the 1865 census. If anyone can help, I would greatly appreciate it! Also, what is the meaning of "R." in "Næss, R."? Leaving Norway for New Zealand: m 29099 Oslo 345A 1873 06 Laurits Larsen m G Arb. 31 Næss, R. New Zealand 1094 Norsk œ 30 Høvding 29100 Oslo 345B...

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Thanks, Laila.

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Hi, Laila et al,

Just to clarify: When you write "Aker MINI 16 (1827-1841)", as above, does the "MINI" part mean "Ministerialbok"?

Thanks.

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Thanks, Vidar.

I have tried to find him in the 1865 census, but am still unsuccessful. In fact, I haven't really been able to find any of the Halvorsens in the census except for my g-g-grandmother.

I'll have to wait and see what else turns up.

gj01576

Thanks, Vidar.

gj01576

Is it possible that the parish registers might have recorded their emigration?

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Hi, Laila. This is great - thank you very much. I posted the info I had on Bertel/Berthold GUNDERSEN & family from the Høvding passenger list, but here's the info from the emigrants list: m 25233 Oslo 424A 1872 30 Bertel Gundersen m G Arb. 35 Kristiania New Zealand 1413 Norsk œ 28 Høvding 25234 ...

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Thanks, Laila. I appreciate your help. Fredrik and Anne Marie's youngest son was Axel Guttorm. The parent search for Halvor GUNDERSEN and Berte OLSDATTER gave (among others) a child named Gutorm HALVORSEN. Since there were only abt 66 people with names like Gutorm in the 1865 census, it also seems p...

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I found 2 references to a marriage between Halvor GUNDERSEN and Berte OLSDATTER:

HALVOR GUNDERSEN
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... rompage=99
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... rompage=99
Spouse: BIRTHE MARIA OLSDR
Marriage: 17 OCT 1815 Holand, Akershus, Norway

Also tried marriage for Halvor GUNDERSEN and Marie OLSDATTER, but found nothing of significance.

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A parent search at FamilySearch.org shows the following children for Halvor GUNDERSEN and Berte OLSDATTER: GUTORM HALVORSEN (Anne Marie's youngest son was Axel Guttorm MORTENSEN) m Christening: 28 JUL 1816 Hobol, Ostfold, Norway Father: HALVOR GUNDERSEN Mother: BERTHE MARIE OLSDR Oline <HALVORSDATTE...

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Hi, Laila.

Thanks for the additional information.

I've spent ages looking for Bertel, both as HALVORSEN (just in case) and GUNDERSEN, but haven't had any luck so far. I've tried some pretty obscure spelling options, too!

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I have some info on Hans GUNDERSEN: Parents: Berthold/Bertel GUNDERSEN and Marie HANSDATTER. The family emigrated to NZ in 1872 per Høvding (same ship and voyage/date as Maren and Anne Marie). I have them here: m GUNDERSEN Berthol 35 Interior late Christiania Laborer " Mari HANSEN 29 " Hans Gustav 7...

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Hi, Laila. This is truly amazing! Thank you so much for your effort - I really appreciate your help. I was interested to see that Maren was recorded as GUNDERSEN rather HALVORSDATTER in the marriage record. Anne Maria's daughter, Marthe Matilde MORTENSEN (married surname, WILLING) was widowed and he...

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I had such a great response to my last brick wall, I thought I'd try another! My ggGrandparents were Johan Fredrik (Fredrik) MORTENSEN and Anne Marie HALVORSEN . They emigrated from Norway to NZ in 1872 aboard the "Høvding". I cannot find any records of Anne Marie's birth, christening or parents. No...

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Hi, Berit. Thank you for the information you posted. I'm breaking through my brick wall at last! Could you help me understand a few things, please? First, does "CB" mean "church book"? Also, what does the "Moldusen u. Løvhaugen" mean in the following? 14th oct Amund Amundsen Moldusen u. Løvhaugen 24...

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Hi, Finn. Thanks for all the info you provided. Children: 1. Anne born 1832... 2. Amund born 1841... 3. Karen 1843... 4. Maria 1845... 5. Emma 1875... 6. The yongest children Helene born 1848... I did a parent search for Amund PEDERSEN and Kari DANIELSDATTER at FamilySearch.org and brought up some a...

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Thanks for your post, Vidar. Posting here has provided a real break-through, so I'll see what else turns up before I spend my $$!

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Thanks, Marit. I've been having trouble with this family as the info on Amund AMUNDSEN's death certificate is wrong (his wife died before him, and his children were probably too young when they left Norway to remember their grandparents). And this may be Elise even if she have a different givenname ...

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How would I employ a genealogical researcher and how much would it cost? I would like to find out some info about this couple: Amund AMUNDSEN and Elise LARSDATTER m I believe this couple emigrated to Sweden, then to New Zealand via Hamburg. The info I would need is birth info for each of the above, ...

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Thanks to both of you. That probably explains everything! How much might it cost to get someone to do a lookup in the original listings at the National Archives, and who would I need to contact? BTW, this is not my family, but a family I am researching in the hope of publishing the memoirs of one of...

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I have not been able to find a family that emigrated from from Vang, Hedmark (to New Zealand) in the "Emigrants from Oslo" lists. Could they have departed from a different port and, if so, which one(s) would be most likely? The family members emigrated about 1877. They were: Johannes JOHANSEN (or JO...

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Hi, Vidar.

I tried to borrow this book thru the local library, but they couldn't locate it.

Could you please supply the publisher's details and ISBN number?

Thanks.

Pip.
http://www.norsewoodcemetery.co.nz

gj01576

Thanks, Vidar.

He dropped the last name and anglicised his name to ENGELBRETSEN or ENGLEBRETSEN just to keep everyone confused!

Pip.

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