court house records for settlement in death

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My grandfather died in an accident involving a streetcar where the
streetcar company was at fault. His widow and family received a
settlement. In what courthouse records might I find reference to a
settlement
Mary

[Hugh Watkins]

[email protected] wrote:

My grandfather died in an accident involving a streetcar where the
streetcar company was at fault. His widow and family received a
settlement. In what courthouse records might I find reference to a
settlement
Mary

it depends on date and location of the accident

Hugh W

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On Feb 2, 7:46 pm, Hugh Watkins <[email protected]> wrote:

[email protected] wrote:
My grandfather died in an accident involving a streetcar where the
streetcar company was at fault.  His widow and family received a
settlement.  In what courthouse records might I find reference to a
settlement
Mary

it  depends on date and location of the accident

Hugh W

It would have happened in 1918 in Pennsylvania
Mary

[Carole Allen]

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:52:56 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

My grandfather died in an accident involving a streetcar where the
streetcar company was at fault. His widow and family received a
settlement. In what courthouse records might I find reference to a
settlement
Mary

That depends on whether a lawsuit was filed. If an out of court
settlement was reached, here would be no lawsuit and therefore no
court records. Even if a suit was filed, all the final documents may
say is that the case has been settled and it is therefore dismissed.
A final settlement doesn't have to indicate the terms or sums paid. A
case that goes to jury verdict will specify the jury award.

You need to check records in the county where the accident happened.
Most of them have an index. You would be lookling under civil cases
(as opposed to criminal, juvenile, etc.).

Check what court records have been filmed by the LDS for the
jurisdiction where he died.

[Gjest]

On Feb 2, 4:52 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:

My grandfather died in an accident involving a streetcar where the
streetcar company was at fault.  His widow and family received a
settlement.  In what courthouse records might I find reference to a
settlement
Mary

2-3-2008

If you have a more specific date of death or when you think the
settlement might have been paid (such as the month and the day), you
could check newspaper articles AFTER the death to see if there was any
public mention of it, but most likely it was a private matter known
only to the parties. I would be checking the probate files at the
county courthouse to see if the grandfather had a last will and
testament and if he did, there might be a page in the file that
mentions the settlement. With this being so far back, however, you
will be lucky if the courthouse keeps records that far back (sometimes
they can be found on microfilm), but most courthouses do not keep
files this old because the paper would deteriorate.

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[Carole Allen]

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:01:07 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:
With this being so far back, however, you

will be lucky if the courthouse keeps records that far back (sometimes
they can be found on microfilm), but most courthouses do not keep
files this old because the paper would deteriorate.

Court records are official government records - barring flood or fire,

or some natural disaster, records are not intentionally destroyed.
They may not be easily accessible by the general public, but they
exist somewhere, possibly in microfilm or microfiche form. I have
even seen old books of court records from the late-1800s (in PA of all
places) still preserved in their original state.

[Jeremy Knowles]

[email protected] wrote:

My grandfather died in an accident involving a streetcar where the
streetcar company was at fault. His widow and family received a
settlement. In what courthouse records might I find reference to a
settlement
Mary

That makes me wonder about my grandfather's previous wife (before he
married my grandmother) who died in Glasgow in 1934 after being knocked
down by a motor bus (along with her friend, who survived, and her dog, who
didn't!). I found a newspaper article about it in "The Scotsman", but am
now wondering if anything else might have happened with the bus company at
the time, other than "sorry about your loss"?

Now Scotlands People have released the new indexes, I did find another 1/2
brother of my mother's, whom she didn't know about and know he died and
had a daughter and I'm trying my best to trace her so may find out the
full story if I find her, and she'll talk with me.

Still, any suggestions about whether there may be any other records about
the accident in Glasgow would be appreciated.

--
Jeremy Knowles

[Hugh Watkins]

Jeremy Knowles wrote:

[email protected] wrote:

My grandfather died in an accident involving a streetcar where the
streetcar company was at fault. His widow and family received a
settlement. In what courthouse records might I find reference to a
settlement
Mary

That makes me wonder about my grandfather's previous wife (before he
married my grandmother) who died in Glasgow in 1934 after being knocked
down by a motor bus (along with her friend, who survived, and her dog,
who didn't!). I found a newspaper article about it in "The Scotsman",
but am now wondering if anything else might have happened with the bus
company at the time, other than "sorry about your loss"?

Now Scotlands People have released the new indexes, I did find another
1/2 brother of my mother's, whom she didn't know about and know he died
and had a daughter and I'm trying my best to trace her so may find out
the full story if I find her, and she'll talk with me.

Still, any suggestions about whether there may be any other records
about the accident in Glasgow would be appreciated.

does the death certificate mention a coroners report?

if the files survive they may include witnesses statements and police
reports

also a police case against the driver?

Hugh W

[Jeremy Knowles]

Hugh Watkins wrote:

does the death certificate mention a coroners report?

if the files survive they may include witnesses statements and police
reports

also a police case against the driver?

Can't see a report mentioned, just the RCE which simply expands on the
cause of death by saying "result of being knocked down by a motor bus" and
was exactly a month after the event.

It was signed by the procurator fiscal though, which I just looked up to
see what it was and it seems that it is quite likely there would have been
some sort of investigation. I can't see how to find out though, presumably
I could just write to the current office and ask?

--
Jeremy Knowles

[Hugh Watkins]

Jeremy Knowles wrote:

Hugh Watkins wrote:

does the death certificate mention a coroners report?

if the files survive they may include witnesses statements and police
reports

also a police case against the driver?

Can't see a report mentioned, just the RCE which simply expands on the
cause of death by saying "result of being knocked down by a motor bus"
and was exactly a month after the event.

It was signed by the procurator fiscal though, which I just looked up to
see what it was and it seems that it is quite likely there would have
been some sort of investigation. I can't see how to find out though,
presumably I could just write to the current office and ask?

yes

but such old cases may have been thrown out or deposited in an archive

local newspapers may have the gory details
I have no experience of scottish administrative systems
and scotlandspeople is too expensive for me to use


all scottish LAPHAM are my cousins so the telephone boiok is good enough

Hugh W


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