Software with source citation & HTML output features

[Mike Carroll]

Hi,

Time for me to upgrade from "Family Tree Maker 3.0 for Windows" that I
bought about a decade ago. Upgrade to what?

Realizing there's no software that's best for everyone, I've identifed
2 features I'd like to have:
1) Ability to have a separate list of sources, and specify a source
for each event I record. When I go into my current version of FTM, I
too often find myself wondering, "Where did I get that birth date
from?", etc.
2) HTML output -- this is a rather vague requirement, but I'd like to
be able to get Web pages directly from the software, rather than
export from it & then try to Webify the output.

It looks like the current version of The Master Genealogist
(http://www.whollygenes.com) has both these features, while Family Tree Maker
2005 (http://www.familytreemaker.com) has neither. So I guess I'll go with
TMG despite the higher price & features I might not use.

Unless, that is, somebody would like to recommend some other product
they like, that has these features. There are so many of them it's
hard to take a look at them all.

Thanks.

Mike Carroll
Oro Valley, AZ

[Susie Zada]

Hi Mike,

Why not try Legacy Family Tree first - does what you want and the basic
version is free with a small cost to upgrade to full version. You can try
it out first.

Regards ...... Susie Z


"Mike Carroll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Hi,

Time for me to upgrade from "Family Tree Maker 3.0 for Windows" that I
bought about a decade ago. Upgrade to what?

Realizing there's no software that's best for everyone, I've identifed
2 features I'd like to have:
1) Ability to have a separate list of sources, and specify a source
for each event I record. When I go into my current version of FTM, I
too often find myself wondering, "Where did I get that birth date
from?", etc.
2) HTML output -- this is a rather vague requirement, but I'd like to
be able to get Web pages directly from the software, rather than
export from it & then try to Webify the output.

It looks like the current version of The Master Genealogist
(http://www.whollygenes.com) has both these features, while Family Tree Maker
2005 (http://www.familytreemaker.com) has neither. So I guess I'll go with
TMG despite the higher price & features I might not use.

Unless, that is, somebody would like to recommend some other product
they like, that has these features. There are so many of them it's
hard to take a look at them all.

Thanks.

Mike Carroll
Oro Valley, AZ

[Susie Zada]

Sorry - meant to include the URL!

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/

Regards ...... Susie Z

"Mike Carroll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Hi,

Time for me to upgrade from "Family Tree Maker 3.0 for Windows" that I
bought about a decade ago. Upgrade to what?

[cecilia]

"Susie Zada" wrote:

"Mike Carroll" wrote:
[...] features I'd like to have:
1) Ability to have a separate list of sources, and specify a source
for each event I record. When I go into my current version of FTM, I
too often find myself wondering, "Where did I get that birth date
from?", etc. [...]

Why not try Legacy Family Tree first - does what you want [...]

Legacy tends to allow a source (or more) per event, rather than
distinguishing between (for instance) source of date of birth and
location of birth, or (for instance) the parts of a name (prefix /
given / sur- / suffix).

I use Legacy, and elucidate where necessary in notes, but some might
find it a problem.

[Joe Makowiec]

On 20 Nov 2004 in soc.genealogy.computing, Mike Carroll wrote:

Time for me to upgrade from "Family Tree Maker 3.0 for Windows" that
I bought about a decade ago. Upgrade to what?

Realizing there's no software that's best for everyone, I've
identifed 2 features I'd like to have:
1) Ability to have a separate list of sources, and specify a source
for each event I record. When I go into my current version of FTM, I
too often find myself wondering, "Where did I get that birth date
from?", etc.
2) HTML output -- this is a rather vague requirement, but I'd like
to be able to get Web pages directly from the software, rather than
export from it & then try to Webify the output.

It looks like the current version of The Master Genealogist
(http://www.whollygenes.com) has both these features, while Family Tree
Maker 2005 (http://www.familytreemaker.com) has neither. So I guess I'll go
with TMG despite the higher price & features I might not use.

When I got TMG several years back (upgrading from FTM 3, if memory
serves), it had far and away the best source recording capacity of any
program on the market. Others are catching up, but from what I see,
TMG is still the leader in this area.

As to web output: I really haven't looked at direct output from TMG in
a while, although the times I used it, it was competent for what I
wanted. There is a companion program, Second Site, which will generate
web output directly from a TMG database, and is enormously flexible and
configurable: http://johncardinal.com/ss/index.htm

However, and this now gets into philosophy - I've gotten to where I
want my web posting of genealogical data to be dynamic, so I've been
using PHPGedView (http://phpgedview.sourceforge.net/). It does require
a GEDCOM as an intermediate step, though it seems to work very well
with TMG GEDCOMs. And as its name implies, it requires PHP, though
that's widely available on hosting accounts. While I'd much rather it
work directly from the database, it's a great step forward from static
pages.

Standard disclaimer: No connection with any of the mentioned products
other than as a satisfied user.

--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.org/
Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe

[Pam]

I use the Second Site software which directly works with TMG. It does a
very nice job of creating web pages and is very flexible. John Cardinal
continually upgrades it with great features. If you want to see how a
sample, I created my genealogy pages using it. There are many formats in
which to output, I happened to choose a narrative form. The URL is below
and just click on "My Family Tree Page" and explore from there. One note,
you won't find the graphics I used in the program as I designed them myself
but the output would be basically the same if you chose one of the graphics
with a border.

--
Pam
http://www.pamsgenealogy.net

"Joe Makowiec" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On 20 Nov 2004 in soc.genealogy.computing, Mike Carroll wrote:


As to web output: I really haven't looked at direct output from TMG in
a while, although the times I used it, it was competent for what I
wanted. There is a companion program, Second Site, which will generate
web output directly from a TMG database, and is enormously flexible and
configurable: http://johncardinal.com/ss/index.htm

[Philip Endecott]

Mike Carroll wrote:

2) HTML output -- this is a rather vague requirement, but I'd like to
be able to get Web pages directly from the software, rather than
export from it & then try to Webify the output.

Hello Mike,

In my humble opinion, none of the products out there does a
particularly good job of creating HTML tree diagrams. That's why I
started TREEFIC. It's not exactly what you're looking for since it
requires that you generate a GEDCOM file and then load it into the web
site, but you might find that the results justify the extra step.
(And it's currently free.) The TREEFIC home page is at
http://treefic.com, and here is an example site:
http://treefic.com/treefic/royalfamily.

Regards,

Phil Endecott.

[Brian Kelly]

cecilia wrote:
snip

Legacy tends to allow a source (or more) per event, rather than
distinguishing between (for instance) source of date of birth and
location of birth, or (for instance) the parts of a name (prefix /
given / sur- / suffix).

I use Legacy, and elucidate where necessary in notes, but some might
find it a problem.

One nice thing for those who want to insert such notes is that
Legacy lets you put comments fight in the source details where
you can make such qualifications on which part of the event data
was obtained from or included in the source.

Brian

[Mike Carroll]

Ok, I'll have a look at Legacy Family Tree and the TMG/SecondSite
combo. Thanks for all your help.

Mike Carroll
Oro Valley, AZ