Hans Peter Gylsen ( Belgian search !!!)

[gj11390]

Hello,

I'm Gyselinck Marc from Belgium and I'am in a search for some data to complete my family tree. There is a family member who was born in Norway :

name : Hans Peter (Peder ?) Gylsen

born : 17/04/1788 in Tonsberg, Vestfold, Norway

died : 14/03/1837 in Bojden, Danmark

He migrated to Danmark and some of his descendents stayed in Danmark and others migrated further to the U.S.A. and Belgium. In Danmark he married Edel Kirstine Gudme born on 28/05/1788 at Paa Auernak, Svendborg, Danmark (source Dansk Demografisk Database ) and he married her on 31/01/1812.
Just one thing I know is that he had probably something to do with whale hunting.

So if somebody can direct me to somebody who can help me a little bit (non commercial way) with this I would appreciate it. Maybe somebody can point me to a Norwegian site were I can find some additional information of this person ( parents ? other relatives ? certificates ). Every clue is welcome.



Is there also any information available of next person :

name : Dort(h)e Jo(h)nson

born : 14/03/1829 Telemarken, Norway

Dort(h)e Jo(h)nson was married to a son of Hans Peter (Peder?) Gylsen in Danmark, his name was Carl Frederik Peter Gylsen.

Hopefully there is a positive reaction.

Best Regards,
Gyselinck Marc
Belgium[color=black][/u]

[dn22196]

Hello.

The only person I could find with that name was born in Denmark not in Norway.
Do you have any records showing that he was born in Norway?

Lisbeth

[gj11390]

Dear Lisbeth,

Thank you for your reply. I don't have any proof of this data of the Norwegian Hans Peter Gylsen. The person who transmitted them I'm still trying to reach in Danmark ( try to find his e-mail address) to ask after his source. Though there is a grandson of this Hans Peter (°1788 Norway) who was born in Danmark (°1841 Horne ) and had the same first name.



From Dansk Demografisk Database :

1) This is the Norwegian Hans Peter Gylsen ( his family in 1834 in Danmark)

Svendborg, Sallinge, Horne, Boyden Bye, , Toldopsynsboligen, 31b, FT-1834

Hans Peter Gylsen 47 Gift roerskarl ( =the one who emigrated from Norway)
Edel Kirstine Gudme 48 Gift hans kone
Carl Fredrich Peter Gylsen 21 Ugift deres søn, roerskarl
Grethe Kirstine Gylsen 19 Ugift deres datter

2) His son Carl Frederich Peter Gylsen Married Maren Jensdatter and had a son also named Hans Peter Gylsen

Svendborg, Sallinge, Horne, Horne Bye, , En gaard, 67, FT-1845

Carl Fr. Peter Gylsen 33 Gift Styrmand Nyborg
Maren Jensdatter 36 Gift Hans kone Her i sognet [Horne]
Elise Marie Gylsen 7 Ugift Deres børn do [Horne]
Hans Peter Gylsen 4 Ugift Deres børn do [Horne] ( the grandson)


name : Hans Peter Gylsen

born : °06/09/1841 Horne, Svendborg, Danmark

baptised : 24/10/1841 Horne, Svendborg, Danmark

died : 1907 Antwerp, Belgium

So, Lisbeth, that's all I have at the moment.


It is the grandson Hans Peter Gylsen who came to Belgium.

Best regards,

Marc[/i]

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

Dort(h)e Jonson (Jonsdatter) born 1403 1829 Telemark (county).
If place (county) of birth is correct, you'll be able to search the online parish records here:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... arch=&js=j

[gj11390]

Dear Jon Erik,

Thanks for the valuable tip !

Best Regards,

Gyselinck Marc
Belgium

[gj11390]

Hello Lisbeth,

This is what a found in the Danish archives, it is of a death certificate of Hans Peter Gylsen
( died 14/03/1837 ). It says that he was born in Tonsberg ( Norway ).

Best Regards

[gj00026]

Gylsen would not be a common Norwegian name. It may be a long shot, but I just stumbled across a sergeant Jens Giølsen. He appears as a witness in Sem parish, just outside Tønsberg, in 1756 (bottom right).

When the death certificate says that Hans Peter Gylsen was born in Tønsberg, it doesn't necessarily mean the city of Tønsberg. I believe he may have been born in the area of Tønsberg.

[gj11390]

Hello Christian,

Thanks for your reply. It opens a new direction for me so that I don't have to focus alone on the name Gylsen but also consider the names Giolsen or Jolsen (sorry I don't have a slashed o on my keybord ).
Is it possible that they wrote Gylsen's lastname in Danmark on a fonetic way ? I don't know if there is a lot of difference in pronouncing Giolsen, Jolsen or Gylsen.
Is Giolsen or Jolsen a common name in the region of Tonsberg ?
Is there a connection between your sergeant Jens Giolsen and this one :

Jens Olai Nilssen Jølsen (Giølsen), 1760-1786, sersjant og billedskjærer.

source : http://www-bib.hive.no/tekster/sem_slag ... e1/43.html

[gj00026]

Is it possible that they wrote Gylsen's lastname in Danmark on a fonetic way ? I don't know if there is a lot of difference in pronouncing Giolsen, Jolsen or Gylsen.

That's possible. Names tended to be spelled fonetically, and thus several spellings occured, depending on slight differences in pronounciation and so on.

Is Giolsen or Jolsen a common name in the region of Tonsberg ?

No. Last names ending with -sen are almost always patronymics. Pedersen means "son of Peder", Torsen means "son of Tor" etc. Giølsen could be "son of Jul", but Jul was a rare name. In this case we probably deal with the farm name Jølsen in Fet parish, Akershus (at the lake Øyern, east of Oslo).

Is there a connection between your sergeant Jens Giolsen and this one :

Jens Olai Nilssen Jølsen (Giølsen), 1760-1786, sersjant og billedskjærer.

source : http://www-bib.hive.no/tekster/sem_slag ... e1/43.html

It's definitively the same person, and it actually says that his family hailed from Fet parish. The hypothesis should be that Hans Peter Gylsen was a grandson of Jens Olai Nilsen Jølsen (1722-1786). The text says that Jens Olai Nilsen Jølsen had eight children, of which only a few grew up: Sofie Amalie (1748-1780), Frederik Christian Otto, b. 1753, Nils, b. 1755, married 1795 to Kristine Andersdatter Lasken, and Margrete Elisabet, b. 1762, married 1792 to Ole Borge.

[gj11390]

Hello,

Does a place called Gyldal exists near Tønsberg ?

Marc

[gj13625]

Jeg har en tresiders historie om Skipper Gylsen, som jeg gerne vil sende til Marc Gyselinck i Belgien, men jeg har slettet hans emailadresse. Kan nogen hjælpe?
Kaj Skytte.
[email protected]

[gj13625]

slut

[gj11389]

Hello,

I'm Gyselinck Marc from Belgium and I'am in a search for some data to complete my family tree.

name : Hans Peter (Peder ?) Gylsen

born : 17/04/1788 in Tonsberg, Vestfold, Norway

died : 14/03/1837 in Bojden, Danmark

He migrated to Danmark and some of his descendents stayed in Danmark and others migrated further to the U.S.A. and Belgium. In Danmark he married Edel Kirstine Gudme born on 28/05/1788 at Paa Auernak, Svendborg, Danmark (source Dansk Demografisk Database ) and he married her on 31/01/1812.
Just one thing I know is that he had probably something to do with whale hunting.

So if somebody can direct me to somebody who can help me a little bit (non commercial way) with this I would appreciate it. Maybe somebody can point me to a Norwegian site were I can find some additional information of this person ( parents ? other relatives ? certificates ). Every clue is welcome.



Is there also any information available of next person :

name : Dort(h)e Jo(h)nson

born : 14/03/1829 Telemarken, Norway

Dort(h)e Jo(h)nson was married to a son of Hans Peter (Peder?) Gylsen in Danmark, his name was Carl Frederik Peter Gylsen.

Hopefully there is a positive reaction.

Best Regards,
Gyselinck Marc
Belgium[color=black][/u]

[Rune Helland]

Hello. Kay Skytte (above) n Denmark ha a 3 pages note abt. your man. Take directly contakt with him, at his e-mail adress

Rune

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

Marc- have you searched the records for all the Telemark parishes (see above) for Dort(h)e Jonsdatter?