Baptism record in 1796

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Baptism record in 1796

Legg inn av gj05502 » 2. desember 2008 kl. 18.46

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?s ... e=nei&ls=1
I hope I am copying the page correctly.

Kari Uogte to Pernille Fredrichsdatter.
Anyone assist me with the long written record under her baptism.
p. 110 in Toten records of 1793-1809

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Legg inn av Gry Onarheim Dahlmo » 2. desember 2008 kl. 19.19

Hi David,

From Gjøvik og Toten Slektshistorielag, their website:

Pernille Frederichs Datters %uægte% Datter Kari. Barnets Fader blev angivet at være Moderens Ægte Mand Gunder Paulsen Lunden, men da han i Vidners Paahør har aldeles frasagt sig at være Barnets Fader, maae det herved beroe, indtil Sagen nærmere bliver oplyst. - Men da Moderen paastod at Gunder og ingen anden var Barnets Fader, blev Barnet døbt som ægte.
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Legg inn av gj05502 » 3. desember 2008 kl. 0.04

Thanks for that but what is the gist of what it says? I think that it has something to do with Gunder saying it isn't his child but....
Funny thing is, I can't find Pernille or Kari in the Toten census of 1801 (not sure where else to look). Presumably no indication in this record. I can't find Kari's confirmation record in Toten.
Thank you,
David Vinge

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Legg inn av Anne Lisbeth Stavland » 3. desember 2008 kl. 0.24

Hi :)

You are correct. The mother says that the husband is father of the child, but he denies it in precense of witnesses. But the mother insists and the child is baptised as legitim (?).

Uætke/uekte = not legitim, born outside marriage

ekte = legitim, born within marriage

Anne Lisbeth :)

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Legg inn av Anne Lisbeth Stavland » 3. desember 2008 kl. 0.55

Hi :)

It is very strange. I could not find any of them. :roll:

Mvh
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Legg inn av gj06467 » 3. desember 2008 kl. 3.00

Hi

Maybe it is them at Flikeshaugstuen inn 1799:
Barn Agnete Flickesougstuen* K 22.09.1799*
Far Gunder Paulsen Flickesougstuen M
Mor Pernille Frederichs Dr. Flickesougstuen K

And in Drengsrud inn 1802:

Barn Paul Drengsrud* M 18.07.1802
Far Gunder Paulsen Drengsrud M
Mor Pernille Fredrichs Dr. Drengsrud K

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Legg inn av gj05502 » 3. desember 2008 kl. 17.02

Where is Flikeshaugstuen? Is it a farm in Toten? or another town/parish?
Pernille must be from another town/parish? It is a bit strange how this has not made much sense? 200 years ago makes it hard to follow events easily.
Thank-you for your interpretation!
David Vinge

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Legg inn av Gry Onarheim Dahlmo » 3. desember 2008 kl. 17.20

David,

Flikkeshaugstuen is a smaller place under the farm Flikkeshaug. Flikkeshaug is between the Raufoss in Vestre Toten and Gjøvik.

Look here and use : "Search for place names". You'll find several farms you are looking for :idea:

Else at the website Slektshistorielaget, you can find "Kart", and look at an older map which show all the farms in the area. http://slektshistorielaget.no/

Sorry, but in a hurry.... hope you'll find something interesting...
Vennlig hilsen Gry

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Legg inn av gj05502 » 3. desember 2008 kl. 18.29

Thank you Gry,
I was thinking to look for the family (people) under Gjovik in the 1801 census but there isn't a place there (but in 1865 there is). What town would Gjovik come under in 1801? I suppose it is Toten which makes a search redundant.
Thanks,
David Vinge

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1801 census : Vardal ( now Gjøvik )
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Legg inn av gj05502 » 3. desember 2008 kl. 19.23

Since it seems that the farm comes between Gjøvik and Toten, maybe each census enumerator thought the other district was going to do that farm and so they didn't show up in either area's census.

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Legg inn av gj05502 » 3. desember 2008 kl. 22.01

This baptism of Kari is in Oct 1796 and the parents seem to be married in June 1796. I suppose the reason there is a dispute? is support but they are married???

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Legg inn av Gry Onarheim Dahlmo » 4. desember 2008 kl. 16.15

Baptism of Agnete in 1799 : http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-217

Burial of Agnete in 1800
:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-230

Burial of Gunder Paulsen Lunden
:


Protokoll: A7 Toten
Side: %306%307
Nr: 087
År: 1803
Begravet dato: 19.05.1803

Rolle Sivilstand Stilling/
yrke Fornavn Etternavn Bosted Oppholdssted Kjønn Fødested Alder
Begravet Gunner Paulsen Lunden M 30 Aar

Cofirmation of Poul Gundersen Drengsrud in 1816
:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-172


Hmm, can't find Pernille, Gunder and Poul in the 1801 census....
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Legg inn av dn09189 » 4. desember 2008 kl. 21.59

Thank you so much. It is very strange that they can't be found in the 1801 census!!
Was wondering about the burial of Gunner Paulsen. It says Lunden but he had been living at Drengsrud for a few years so why Lunden. I suppose he could have moved back to the family farm??!! I thought that once they moved that residence changed? Why back to where he was born and confirmed? Suggestions?
In Agnete's baptism could it be at Aas kirke? There is an "A" after the date for those entries?
I appreciate your assistance!
David Vinge

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