Lars Hansen Skattebøl - emigrerte til Chicago 1880

[Rolf Karlsen]

Lars Hansen Skattebøl, født 23.12.1845 i Rakkestad, giftet seg, bodde og fikk barn i Østfold (Rakkestad, Rygge, Moss, Eidsberg), men dro i 1880 over Kristiania til Chicago.

Han må ha returnert relativt raskt da hans fjerde barn, Johan Ludvig, blir født 20.12.1881 (dåpen i Rygge).

Hvordan kan man finne ut om han i det hele tatt var i Amerika og hva han evt. gjorde der?

Takknemlig for hjelp!

Rolf Karlsen

[Margit R Bakke]

County: Østfold
Clerical District: Rygge
Circuit Number: 1
List Number: 104
Event Place: Kjellerøe Vestre
Farm Number: 81a
Operator's Name:
Person Number: 3
Absent:
Name: Hans Larsen
Presumed Residence:
Building of Residence:
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of Household: Deres Søn
Marital Status (Original Language): ug
Occupation:
Birth Year: 1874
Age (Estimated): 1
Birthplace: Rygge P
Nationality:
Religion:
Disability:
Length of Illness:


Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Lars Hansen Skattebøl M 29 Osø S Rakkestad P
Laura Johannesd F 29 Rygge P
Hans Larsen M 1 Rygge P
Hans Andersen M 21 Osø S Rakkestad P
Anne Andersdr F 21 Osø S Rakkestad P
Andrea Sørensdr F 15 Rygge P



Citing this Record:
"Norway Census, 1875," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/SP9R-SV6 : accessed 4 March 2015), Hans Larsen in household of Lars Hansen Skattebøl, Kjellerøe Vestre, Rygge, Østfold, Norway, Statsarkivet, Oslo [Norway National Archives, Oslo]; FHL microfilm 255,578.

[Astrid Mollan]

Det kan være ham.
Han reiste via Skotland.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ge ... 0000010309

Name: L Hansen
Arrival Date: 29 May 1880
Birth Date: abt 1847
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: State of Alabama
Search Ship Database: Search for the State of Alabama in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Han måtte vel skaffe seg pass før han dro. Der skal det stå hensikten ved reisen. Disse papirene finnes hos Arkivverket.

[Gunhild-Juliane Kåsene]

Avreise 13.mars til ankomst 29.mai synes jeg er alt for lang tid. Som oftest tar det 2-3 uker fra de reiser til de er fremme i Amerika. Om ikke han ble værende i England i 2 Mnd.

Jeg vil tippe at ankomsten i Amerika vil være i slutten av mars. Jeg vil også tippe at han skjønte at Skattebøl ble for vanskelig å si på engelsk, og at han derfor brukte Lars Hansen.

Jeg finner forøvrig en Olaf Skattebol som emigrerte i 1888. Kan det være familie?

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 7&ref=acom

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Olaf Skattebol
[Olaf Shattebol]
Age: 72
Birth Year: abt 1848
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Tacoma Ward 5, Pierce, Washington
Street: Asotin
House Number: 5420 Rear
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Widowed
[Widow]
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Home Owned or Rented: Rent
Naturalization Status: Alien
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Olaf Skattebol 72

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Olaf Skattebol
Age in 1910: 63
Birth Year: abt 1847
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Aberdeen Ward 2, Chehalis, Washington
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Father-in-law
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John A Fenwick 27
Dagny Fenwick 26
Olaf Skattebol 63
Lars Skattebol 10
Nettie Larson 24

[Rolf Karlsen]

Astrid Mollan: Du skriver at han reise via Skottland - hvor finner du det?

Jeg vet ikke, men er kanskje enig med Gunhild-Juliane Kåsene i at det synes lenge. Han returnerte jo etter ganske kort tid (hvis han i det hele tatt kom til USA). 10 måneder etter dette må han ha vært i Norge.

Olaf Skattebøl er sannsynligvis en annen slekt - det fantes en Skattebøl-slekt fra Ål.

Rolf

[Rolf Karlsen]

Margit Nysetvold Bakke: Du bruker en digitalisert utgave av FT 1875 for Rygge. Er den åpent tilgjengelig? Jeg finner verken noen digital eller skannet utgave på Digitalarkivet?

[Gunhild-Juliane Kåsene]

Fikk svar fra en jeg sendte til ang et slektstre jeg fant.

From my notes I found this for his father Hans Christian Nielsen, son of Niels Arensen & Ingri Poulsdatter:
He Could have gone to America...Hans Korum in records for Moe Township....or his son....not sure. He was not able to inherit west Korum as youngest son in this batch.

Last name followed by Skattebol (2 dots over o)....wondered if went to that area.
Per Korum Geneology book 8-3 (written by Trolls Nygaard).

Son was by Berte Larine Larsdatter and Hans Nielsen: Named: Lars Hansen. However, I don't have much on that son Lars. Again, in Korum Book I have it showed him as: Lars Hansen Skatteböl

Now my note to you:
[Hans Nielsen was my great great grandfather's brother (Ole Nielson Korum--Korum was farm in Rakkestad, Ostfold, Norway....but Ole was eldest son and as such inherited the Korum portion whereas Hans, did not. Ole also had a great grandson who was born to my grandfather's brother Johannes Oleson Korum who was named Hans. Hans would not have been using Korum name since he married and took on the farm name you listed. The Hans Korum in Moe Township appear to be my great grandfather's brothers son with the same name....but you never know. I traced him from Douglas Co., MN. to ND or SD and then the trace disappeared. Can't find more as of now.)]

If you have more details of Hans Korum's background perhaps I can help more.

Best, Katie D. Allen

[Rolf Karlsen]

Dette så interessant ut! Det må absolutt være riktig Lars Hansen Skattebøl.

Men jeg skjønner ikke helt det som skrives; Er dette svar på mitt spørsmål, eller svar på et annet spørsmål som kan ha relevans?

Hilsen Rolf

[Gunhild-Juliane Kåsene]

Dette så interessant ut! Det må absolutt være riktig Lars Hansen Skattebøl.

Men jeg skjønner ikke helt det som skrives; Er dette svar på mitt spørsmål, eller svar på et annet spørsmål som kan ha relevans?

Hilsen Rolf

Her er hva jeg skrev til hun amerikaneren:


Juliane Kåsene
Mar 09, 2015
Hi, I am helping a person in Norway with his ancestors. He is looking for Lars Hansen Skattebøl. He went to America in march 1880 from Norway.

Is this the same man you have in your family tree? If so, do you know what he did in America? As far as we can see he moved back to Norway in 1881 and he got a kid in december same year.

Sincerly
Juliane

[Rolf Karlsen]

Det var litt oppklarende. Tusen takk for hjelpen!