Nella Margrete Eliassen f. 8/4 1863

[gj06865]

Hun utvandrer i 1911 til Keewatin, Ontario, Canada med sine barn. Er det noen her som har søkermotorer for Canada og som kan finne ut hva som skjedde med Nella Margrete videre. Ble hun oppattgift, bosted, når døde hun etc.
Hilsen Arnt

[gj17048]

Hei!

Jo mer informasjon du oppgir, jo lettere er det å finne noen

Og eksakt fødselsdato er et "must". Antar det er hun som er født 8.4.1863 du etterspør:
Kildeinformasjon: Nord-Trøndelag fylke, Halmøy (Flatanger) i Fosnes, Ministerialbok nr. 771A02 (1840-1869), Fødte og døpte 1863, uten sidenr.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-46

Reiser 23.08.1911, og skal til en sønn og datter:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ge ... 0000196057

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1823240

Reiser med følgende barn:

Elida Karlotte, født 1.7.1889
Kildeinformasjon: Nord-Trøndelag fylke, Lauvøy (Nord-Flatanger) i Flatanger, Ministerialbok nr. 772A01 (1885-1912), Fødte og døpte 1889, side 13.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-16

Johanna Kristine, født 14.11.1894
Kildeinformasjon: Nord-Trøndelag fylke, Lauvøy (Nord-Flatanger) i Flatanger, Ministerialbok nr. 772A01 (1885-1912), Fødte og døpte 1895, side 25.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-28

Arne, født 30.6.1897
Kildeinformasjon: Nord-Trøndelag fylke, Lauvøy (Nord-Flatanger) i Flatanger, Ministerialbok nr. 772A01 (1885-1912), Fødte og døpte 1897, side 30.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-33

Trygve, født 30.3.1903
Kildeinformasjon: Nord-Trøndelag fylke, Lauvøy (Nord-Flatanger) i Flatanger, Ministerialbok nr. 772A01 (1885-1912), Fødte og døpte 1903, side 45.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-48

Mvh Bente

[gj06865]

Det stemmer.

[Bente Lillian Skjager]

Legger inn de barna som Nella oppgir at hun reiser over til når hun drar i 1911. Kanskje er det mulig å finne henne igjen i Canada via dem.

Olaf Normann, født 21.5.1892
Kildeinformasjon: Nord-Trøndelag fylke, Lauvøy (Nord-Flatanger) i Flatanger, Ministerialbok nr. 772A01 (1885-1912), Fødte og døpte 1892, side 19.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-22

Emigrerer i april 1911:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ge ... 0000193974

Ingeborg Anna, født 28.4.1887
Kildeinformasjon: Nord-Trøndelag fylke, Lauvøy (Nord-Flatanger) i Flatanger, Ministerialbok nr. 772A01 (1885-1912), Fødte og døpte 1887, side 8.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-11

Gift 28.6.1908 med Angel Ludvig Nikolaisen
Kildeinformasjon: Nord-Trøndelag fylke, Lauvøy (Nord-Flatanger) i Flatanger, Ministerialbok nr. 772A01 (1885-1912), Ekteviede 1906-1908, side 143.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-138

Emigrerer 27.07.1910 som Ingeborg Anna Bengaard: (Angel Ludvig foran på passasjerlista, datteren Aasta etter)
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ge ... 0000191754

[Bente Lillian Skjager]

Finner Angel og Anna i Keewatin i 1921 med to barn. Søsteren Elida bor også der. Elida kaller seg Olesen, så kanskje de andre søsknene også tok det etternavnet i Canada?


1921 Census of Canada about Angel Nichelson
Name: Angel Nichelson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 35
Birth Year: abt 1886
Birth Place: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Anna Nichelson
Father Birth Place: Norway
Mother Birth Place: Norway
Year of Immigration: 1904
Racial or Tribal Origin: Norwegian
Province or Territory: Ontario
District: Port Arthur and Kenora
District Number: 120
Sub-District: Keewatin (Town)
Sub-District Number: 51
City, Town or Village: Keewatin East-ward
Street or Township: May Ave
Municipality: Keewatin
Occupation: Packer
Income: 1450
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Angel Nichelson 35
Anna Nichelson 34
Austa Nichelson 12
Walter Nichelson 6
Elida Olesen 32

[gj06865]

Jeg har alle barna, Elida Karlotte døde 30-5-1923 i Keewatin, Kenora, Ontario. Hun var ugift. Arne Olsen døde 20-7-1936 i Kenora, Ontario, Canada. Johanna Kristine ble gift med Carl Andresen f. 11/9 1884 i Norge. Johanna Kristine døde 2-1-1985 i Chapel Hill, Orange, North Carolina. Alle barna kalte seg Olsen da faren het Ole Eliassen.
Det er bare moren Nella Margrete Eliassen jeg mangler.

[gj06865]

Det kan hende at Nella Margrete brukte Caspersen eller Olsen som etternavn i Canada, men mest sannsynlig Eliasson. Jeg har ikke tilgang på kildene der. Det kan jo hende at hun ble gift der borte på nytt.

[Åsbjørg Johanna Susort]

https://slektsforum.slektogdata.no/view ... hp?t=29878

[gj06865]

Det kan hende at Nella Margrete brukte Caspersen eller Olsen som etternavn i Canada, men mest sannsynlig Eliasson. Jeg har ikke tilgang på kildene der. Det kan jo hende at hun ble gift der borte på nytt.

[dn27264]

- If she married again, try the Provincial Archives of Ontario (located in Toronto) to see if you can find a registered marriage for her in the Province of Ontario. Today, Keewatin is more or less part of the Town of Kenora. You could always try the Kenora Public Library by e-mailing the librarian to ask him or her if there is a local history book (bydgebok) with family histories. Kenora and Keewatin are very small places and there might be someone who remembers the family.

- You can also try the National Archives of Canada to see if she was naturalised a British Subject. If so, you can order the documents from the National Archives in Ottawa. It she married a Canadian (British Subject) then I believe that she would have been a naturalised British Subject through marriage, and there may no be a naturalisation record.

- Kenora is a popular cottage destination for many Canadians living in Winnipeg (two hours by car from Winnipeg) in the Province of Manitoba. Albeit slim, there is a always a chance she could have met someone from Manitoba and been married in the Province of Manitoba. Or, there is always a chance (if you don't find her remarried and living in Ontario) that she moved to Winnipeg. So you should try the Provincial Archives of Manitoba.

- The next national census of Canada (taken in 1931) to be release is not till 2023, so it's not currently an option.

Erik

[dn27264]

Okay, I took a look at naturalisation records. Your Nella Olsen was naturalised a British Subject on April 9, 1937, in the Town of Keewatin in the Province of Ontario, Canada. The record shows that her surname was 'Olsen' and that she was a 'housekeeper'. Her certificate of naturalisation number is: 154723A. You can now, through an Access to Information Request, access her naturalisation documents from the Ministry of Citizenship and Immigration Canada. The documents on her naturalisation contain a wealth of information and should give you a good summary of her life up until she applied and recieved naturalisation on April 9, 1937. After that date of course still remains a mystery.

This link will explain how you can order the naturalisation papers:

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/i ... ction.aspx

Scroll down till you find the heading "How to Obtain Copies".

Erik

[dn27264]

In case you don't have it. As far as I know, the mother, Nella (Nellie) is not buried in the same graveyard.

[gj06865]

Thanks very much. Elida I do have the date when she died, but this was a big step closer regarding what happened to Nella. We now know that she called herself Nellie Olsen, and that she did not marry. She was getting quite old in 1937, being born in 1863, she probably didn't marry after 1937. Maybe she went to live With her daughter Anne and her husband Angel Nicholson in Port Arthur and Kenora, Ontario?

[dn27264]

I'm sorry, I should have made myself a tad clearer. I meant the photograph of Elida buried in the Lake of the Woods Cemetery, but perhaps you had it already. A couple of questions of course remain. Why did she become naturalised so late in life? Also, why is she not buried in the same graveyard as her daughter. In fact, I could not find her buried anywhere in Keewatin, Kenora or any of the outlying areas. Maybe she was cremated?

If you are absolutely bent on obtaining the date of death, and assuming that she passed away in the Province of Ontario, you would need contact:

Office of the Registrar General
PO Box 4600 189 Red River Road
Thunder Bay, Ontario P7B 6L8
Canada

Telephone: (416) 325-8305
Telephone (Toll Free Outside Ontario): 1-800-461-2156
Fax: (807) 343-7459
http://www.serviceontario.ca

They can do a search of registered deaths for the Province and should be able to locate Nella's death registration, which would give you the information for which your are looking.

Good luck.

Erik

[gj06865]

Thanks for all the information. Nellas son Arne died 20-july-1936 i Kenora (probably burried in the same graveyard. Her son Olaf born 21. may 1892 lived in Keewatin, but I dont know if the was married og when he died. Her daughter Christine born 14 november 1894 was married to Carl Anderson and lived in Minneapolis i 1930. Christine died 2-january-1985 i Chapel Hill, Orange, North Carolina. Nellas son Trygve born 19. november 1903 lived in Keewatin but nothing futher is known about him. Eldest daughter Anne28. april 1887 was married to Angel Nicholson and lived in Port Arthur and Kenora.

[dn27264]

Okay, I'll see if I can find out more. I believe that Trgyve in 1943 was also naturalised a British Subject. If you look at the passenger list, you'll see that a short numerical code of sorts has been written by Nella's name and Trygve's name. That usually happens when someone in the Canadian government has done a search of the records to see if a person entered Canada when he or she claims to have. When the person's entry record is found (usually a passenger list record) then the government employee makes the note (code).

At any rate, I'll see if I can find additional information.

Erik

[gj06865]

Thanks