Alfred Julius Helberg, f. 10.10.1971, til Illinois?

[dn12526]

Født i Halden, utvandret i april 1903, ankom Ellis Island 16.mai. Reiste trolig alene. Alfred var sønn av August Mauritz Hellberg fra Sverige og Rina Helgesen fra Halden. Hans bror, August Mauritz Augustsson utvandret også, sammen med sin kone Dagny Pedersen, antagelig noe senere. Flere slektninger fra Sverige hadde utvandret tidligere. Ser på siden her at hans søskenbarn, Amanda Hellberg, gift Lund, bodde i Illinois i 1900. Hun flyttet senere til Iowa. Kan det være mulig å "finne" ham i en av disse statene?

Hilsen Kari.

[gj06100]

Hei!
I suppose the year of Alfred's birth is 1871 (not 1971)...what year was August born?
I found an August Helberg in Kane county, Ill in the 1920 census...he is age 52 and he is a widower (his wife died)...but he has a few children. This August was born in Sweden.
Is Halden in Norway?
mvh Patty

[dn21585]

Hei Patty....

Yes, Halden is in Norway......that`s right

[dn12526]

Hi, Patty!

Thanks a lot for your help! Of course the right year is 1871 for Alfred's birth. He was my great grandfather, so it's very interesting for me to find out how things went with him. Halden is in Norway, very close to the border of Sweden. The brother, August, was born in Halden (Fredrikshald), Norway in 1868. But at that time Norway and Sweden were very close, in union under one common king. Norway was independent from Sweden in June 1905. I suppose this could be the right August after all.
Do you have the names of his wife and children?

In generations the same names were used in this family.
There is another Alfred Julius, born in Sweden 1899, who died in USA 1971. He is son of August and Alfred's cousin, Johan August Hellberg, born in Gesäter, Sweden in 1864.

In which state is Kane county situated?

Regards Kari

[dn12526]

To Patty og Mette.
I see now that you have written Kane , Illinois. Var raskt innom hjemmesiden din, Mette. Ser interessant ut!
Kari

[gj06100]

Hei Kari!
August's 3 children are Hildun (not sure of spelling...hard to read) age 18, Dorthy (Dorothy) age 14 and Edna age 9. Not sure of wife's name, since she has died....
I could not find the family in the 1910 census..
mvh Patty

[dn21585]

Heisan Kari...

Dette må være den August som Patty referer til, han er 52 år gammel og bor i Kane, Illinois.

1920 United States Federal Census
about August Helberg
Name: August Helberg
Home in 1920: Elgin, Kane, Illinois
Age: 52 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Birthplace: Sweden
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Sweden
Mother's Birth Place: Sweden
Marital Status: Widow
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: Un
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 175
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
August Helberg 52
Hildur Helberg 18
Dorthy Helberg 14
Edna Helberg 9

[gj06100]

Hei Mette og Kari!
After a bit of looking found August in the 1910 Kane County census:
A. J. (or A. T) Helberg, age 45, immigrated 1889 from Sweden. Wife is Christina age 43.
Children are Carl, Elsie, Hilda, Dorothy and an infant daughter (not named) age 10 months.
August is a shoe maker.
mvh Patty

[dn12526]

Hi again!

Then I suppose this is wrong person. In Norway August was a newspaper editor and had a Norwegian wife, Dagny.

Kari.

[gj04379]

I FS står Kristiane Jakobsdatter f 1864 i Tjølling som Afred Julius sin kone.

90 1903 April 28 Alfred Julius Helberg m gift sjømand 1010 1871 Hjemmeh. Tjølling pr. Fredrikshald New York om Kr.ania Amb.

[gj04379]

Utvandret fra Larvik

[dn12526]

Ja, han dro fra Kristiane og sønnen Alf Kristian på snaue to år. Siden er det ingen nålevende som vet noe om ham. Hvor i all verden ble det av ham?

[dn12526]

Hi again, Patty!

There is another discussion going on Hellberg, under Sweden, Amanda Hellberg. She was my great grandfather's cousin. Her family in Iowa tells about an uncle who lived in Two Harbors, Minnesota. He lived alone, took the name Andrew Johnson and died in 1957 or 1958.

Was he Anders Magnus Hellberg, son of Johan Peter, born in Torp, Sweden 7.07.1873?

I'm also aware that my great grandfather could have changed his name to cover his identity as a married man.
We now have family of Alfred Julius in Minnesota, which means he could possibly have lived and died there.

[gj06100]

Hei Kari!
Just a quick question...you say you now have family of Alfred Julius living in MN?? I know we are not supposed to discuss living people here...but it would help to know something about that family...so we can work "backwards"...what last name are they using??
I will look for Andrew Johnson.
mvh Patty

[dn12526]

Hi, Patty!

Living relatives of Amanda Hellberg can tell that they remember Andrew Johnson who died in 1957 or 1958. Andrew had no wife or children in Minnesota. They say he was Amanda's brother. As he took a new name, I wanted to be quite sure that he really is the same person who emigrated from Sweden in 1890 under the name Anders Magnus Hellberg, born 7.07.1873 in Torp.
By "we have now family in Minnesota " I meant Andrew, since he also was my great grandfather's cousin.

Alfred Julius Helberg had a number of relatives who emigrated, so I guess he went to some family. I don't know where they all went. His brother, August Mauritz, used Augustsson as a family name. Some in my family have an idea that this brother went to Minnesota, but this is just a guess, I suppose.

Tusen takk for hjelpen, Patty!

Hilsen Kari



family

[gj06100]

Hei igjen Kari!
I might have found your Andrew Johnson in the 1920 Lake county, Two Harbors, MN census....I could not find him there in 1900 or 1910.
The one I found is alone, age 46, and working on the rail road..looks like he does "car repair" (train- cars I guess). The year of immigration is hard to read, but it looks like 1890.
He was born in Sweden of Swedish parents.
mvh Patty

[dn12526]

It seems he changed his first name to Fred. He married in Indiana in 1916 and had then given 10.10.1872 as date of birth. His wife married again in 1918. Is it possible to find out if there were any children and when Fred Helberg died.