Need some help scanning death cert please

[Helen Castle]

Hi there,

I have never paid any attention to how to manipulate graphics in my computer
and need some help.

I have the original of a death cert which I have scanned.

the properties of the file are A4 size but 11Meg!!! at 200dpi

What setting can I fiddle to make it a still readable (NSW BDM certified
copy) and able to email?

you would think that after 17 years of using computers I would know but
graphics are just not my thing.
That reminds me I purchased my first second hand computer in Jan 1990 for
the princely sum of $1000 - they havent got much dearer

Helen Castle
Narangba Qld 4504

[Paul Blair]

Helen Castle wrote:

Hi there,

I have never paid any attention to how to manipulate graphics in my computer
and need some help.

I have the original of a death cert which I have scanned.

the properties of the file are A4 size but 11Meg!!! at 200dpi

What setting can I fiddle to make it a still readable (NSW BDM certified
copy) and able to email?

you would think that after 17 years of using computers I would know but
graphics are just not my thing.
That reminds me I purchased my first second hand computer in Jan 1990 for
the princely sum of $1000 - they havent got much dearer

Helen Castle
Narangba Qld 4504


Helen

If you double click on the file name, what does it open in? Paint? MS
Office Picture Manager? Picasa? Something else? (look at the topmost
screen line if you are uncertain..)

Paul

[Rebel Lion]

Helen Castle wrote:

Hi there,

I have never paid any attention to how to manipulate graphics in my
computer and need some help.

I have the original of a death cert which I have scanned.

the properties of the file are A4 size but 11Meg!!! at 200dpi

At that size it would be easier to burn it to a cd and mail the cd

It is probably a bmp from that description. There are several programs
that can turn this into a jpg and compress it for emailing.
To check this open up the folder you saved it to and right click on the
file and click on properties, that should give you some information about
its type etc.
Paintshop pro, adobe photoshop and acdc spring to mind. There are probably
a lot more and I could be wrong about the original file type.
Have a look at the scanner interface/program see if it has the option to
choose another save method jpg or jpeg is usually the smallest available.

It may have an OCR method as well Optical Character Recognition which can
be very good for documents. It depends on the make of the scanner as to
what the output is.

If you have a digital camera the software that comes with that can be
useful for reducing file size too.


--
*~~~~Rebel

[tim sewell]

"Helen Castle" <[email protected]> wrote

I have never paid any attention to how to manipulate graphics in my
computer
and need some help.

I have the original of a death cert which I have scanned.

the properties of the file are A4 size but 11Meg!!! at 200dpi

What setting can I fiddle to make it a still readable (NSW BDM
certified
copy) and able to email?

Helen,

You may not need to use any graphics manipulation at all.

From the size of your file I deduce that you have scanned the
certificate in colour, and saved it as a BMP or uncompressed TIFF file.
You should be able to produce an emailable sized file by merely
rescanning the certificate.

I just tried a series of test runs on an A4 sheet with my Canon scanner
at 200 dpi. The resulting file sizes are :

Uncompressed files :
Colour BMP file - 11,325 kB
(looks familiar ? !)
Greyscale BMP file - 3,783 kB
Black & White BMP file - 475 kB

Compressed files (sizes will vary depending on the details of the
original):
Colour JPG file - 400 kB
Greyscale JPG file - 391 kB
B & W PNG file - 67 kB

I don't know if your scanner will give you the option to save the scan
as a PNG file. If it doesn't, then save as B&W in whatever format you
can, and then convert to PNG or other compressed format in Irfanview
(free from http://www.irfanview.net/ ) or whatever other graphics
program you have available to you.

If you are starting from a Black and White original (eg a typical
photocopy), then you would gain nothing from the extra information that
would be generated by a greyscale or colour scan.

Even if the reduction from 11 MB Colour BMP to 67 kB B&W PNG sounds
excessive, try it out on your original and see if you are satisfied with
the outcome. If not, the B&W BMP file will still be small enough to send
via email.

HTH
Cheers
--
Tim S.

(Please remove my fairly obvious spamtrap
if you wish to reply by direct email)

[Helen Castle]

I can open it with any of the graphics programs I have.
Corel Draw
Paint
MS Photo Editor
Kodak camera thingo
Adobe image thingo

I know about file associations and programs - what I want to know is what
settings give a good image for a scan of a death certificate from NSW BDM's

My problem is I scan lots of stuff and it ends up massive and I have to
resize it to send it or view it in any documents

I would like to know a good all round setting for scanning a certificate
which still renders it readable but not massive in size.

Helen Castle
Narangba Qld





"Paul Blair" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Helen Castle wrote:
Hi there,

I have never paid any attention to how to manipulate graphics in my
computer and need some help.

I have the original of a death cert which I have scanned.

the properties of the file are A4 size but 11Meg!!! at 200dpi

What setting can I fiddle to make it a still readable (NSW BDM certified
copy) and able to email?

you would think that after 17 years of using computers I would know but
graphics are just not my thing.
That reminds me I purchased my first second hand computer in Jan 1990 for
the princely sum of $1000 - they havent got much dearer

Helen Castle
Narangba Qld 4504
Helen

If you double click on the file name, what does it open in? Paint? MS
Office Picture Manager? Picasa? Something else? (look at the topmost
screen line if you are uncertain..)

Paul

[Helen Castle]

The original (certified copy) is a bluish background with black laser
printing on it.

I want to preserve the colour and the typing to send to the sisters of the
person and limit the file to below 1M if possible.

I know I cant preserve the feint blue watermark map of Australia with
"Births, deaths and marriages" emblazoned on it but would like to preserve
the bluish colour of the overall background.

It is A4 and very good quality paper that it is printed on - well better
than I use.

Helen Castle
Narangba Qld


"tim sewell" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...

"Helen Castle" <[email protected]> wrote

I have never paid any attention to how to manipulate graphics in my
computer
and need some help.

I have the original of a death cert which I have scanned.

the properties of the file are A4 size but 11Meg!!! at 200dpi

What setting can I fiddle to make it a still readable (NSW BDM
certified
copy) and able to email?


Helen,

You may not need to use any graphics manipulation at all.

From the size of your file I deduce that you have scanned the
certificate in colour, and saved it as a BMP or uncompressed TIFF file.
You should be able to produce an emailable sized file by merely
rescanning the certificate.

I just tried a series of test runs on an A4 sheet with my Canon scanner
at 200 dpi. The resulting file sizes are :

Uncompressed files :
Colour BMP file - 11,325 kB
(looks familiar ? !)
Greyscale BMP file - 3,783 kB
Black & White BMP file - 475 kB

Compressed files (sizes will vary depending on the details of the
original):
Colour JPG file - 400 kB
Greyscale JPG file - 391 kB
B & W PNG file - 67 kB

I don't know if your scanner will give you the option to save the scan
as a PNG file. If it doesn't, then save as B&W in whatever format you
can, and then convert to PNG or other compressed format in Irfanview
(free from http://www.irfanview.net/ ) or whatever other graphics
program you have available to you.

If you are starting from a Black and White original (eg a typical
photocopy), then you would gain nothing from the extra information that
would be generated by a greyscale or colour scan.

Even if the reduction from 11 MB Colour BMP to 67 kB B&W PNG sounds
excessive, try it out on your original and see if you are satisfied with
the outcome. If not, the B&W BMP file will still be small enough to send
via email.

HTH
Cheers
--
Tim S.

(Please remove my fairly obvious spamtrap
if you wish to reply by direct email)

[Di Maloney]

Hi Helen,

I used to have the problem of extra large files and it was pointed out to me
that it was saving as a BMP - I was advised to save it as a JPEG (some
people don't like that way but it works for me).
I have a Canon scanner which is about 5 years old and works great. I scan at
300 dpi which usually gives a clear picture.
I find that if I only want to be able to read it clearly, to scan in grey
scale is OK.
I have some NSW certificates and have scanned them and they turned out
alright.

Hope this helps you.

Regards,

Di Maloney


"Helen Castle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| I can open it with any of the graphics programs I have.
| Corel Draw
| Paint
| MS Photo Editor
| Kodak camera thingo
| Adobe image thingo
|
| I know about file associations and programs - what I want to know is what
| settings give a good image for a scan of a death certificate from NSW
BDM's
|
| My problem is I scan lots of stuff and it ends up massive and I have to
| resize it to send it or view it in any documents
|
| I would like to know a good all round setting for scanning a certificate
| which still renders it readable but not massive in size.
|
| Helen Castle
| Narangba Qld
|
|
|
|
|
| "Paul Blair" <[email protected]> wrote in message
| news:[email protected]...
| > Helen Castle wrote:
| >> Hi there,
| >>
| >> I have never paid any attention to how to manipulate graphics in my
| >> computer and need some help.
| >>
| >> I have the original of a death cert which I have scanned.
| >>
| >> the properties of the file are A4 size but 11Meg!!! at 200dpi
| >>
| >> What setting can I fiddle to make it a still readable (NSW BDM
certified
| >> copy) and able to email?
| >>
| >> you would think that after 17 years of using computers I would know but
| >> graphics are just not my thing.
| >> That reminds me I purchased my first second hand computer in Jan 1990
for
| >> the princely sum of $1000 - they havent got much dearer
| >>
| >> Helen Castle
| >> Narangba Qld 4504
| > Helen
| >
| > If you double click on the file name, what does it open in? Paint? MS
| > Office Picture Manager? Picasa? Something else? (look at the topmost
| > screen line if you are uncertain..)
| >
| > Paul
|
|

[Di Maloney]

Helen,

Scanning it in colour should give you the result you need and saving as a
JPEG will reduce it in size.
Another way you can reduce it in size is to edit it thru Irfanview (free
from web).

We use Irfanview to reduce huge pictures at work and they turn out great.

Di

"Helen Castle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| The original (certified copy) is a bluish background with black laser
| printing on it.
|
| I want to preserve the colour and the typing to send to the sisters of the
| person and limit the file to below 1M if possible.
|
| I know I cant preserve the feint blue watermark map of Australia with
| "Births, deaths and marriages" emblazoned on it but would like to preserve
| the bluish colour of the overall background.
|
| It is A4 and very good quality paper that it is printed on - well better
| than I use.
|
| Helen Castle
| Narangba Qld
|
|
| "tim sewell" <[email protected]> wrote in
| message news:[email protected]...
| >
| > "Helen Castle" <[email protected]> wrote
| >
| >> I have never paid any attention to how to manipulate graphics in my
| > computer
| >> and need some help.
| >>
| >> I have the original of a death cert which I have scanned.
| >>
| >> the properties of the file are A4 size but 11Meg!!! at 200dpi
| >>
| >> What setting can I fiddle to make it a still readable (NSW BDM
| > certified
| >> copy) and able to email?
| >>
| >
| > Helen,
| >
| > You may not need to use any graphics manipulation at all.
| >
| > From the size of your file I deduce that you have scanned the
| > certificate in colour, and saved it as a BMP or uncompressed TIFF file.
| > You should be able to produce an emailable sized file by merely
| > rescanning the certificate.
| >
| > I just tried a series of test runs on an A4 sheet with my Canon scanner
| > at 200 dpi. The resulting file sizes are :
| >
| > Uncompressed files :
| > Colour BMP file - 11,325 kB
| > (looks familiar ? !)
| > Greyscale BMP file - 3,783 kB
| > Black & White BMP file - 475 kB
| >
| > Compressed files (sizes will vary depending on the details of the
| > original):
| > Colour JPG file - 400 kB
| > Greyscale JPG file - 391 kB
| > B & W PNG file - 67 kB
| >
| > I don't know if your scanner will give you the option to save the scan
| > as a PNG file. If it doesn't, then save as B&W in whatever format you
| > can, and then convert to PNG or other compressed format in Irfanview
| > (free from http://www.irfanview.net/ ) or whatever other graphics
| > program you have available to you.
| >
| > If you are starting from a Black and White original (eg a typical
| > photocopy), then you would gain nothing from the extra information that
| > would be generated by a greyscale or colour scan.
| >
| > Even if the reduction from 11 MB Colour BMP to 67 kB B&W PNG sounds
| > excessive, try it out on your original and see if you are satisfied with
| > the outcome. If not, the B&W BMP file will still be small enough to send
| > via email.
| >
| > HTH
| > Cheers
| > --
| > Tim S.
| >
| > (Please remove my fairly obvious spamtrap
| > if you wish to reply by direct email)
| >
|
|

[Helen Castle]

This sounds good will give it a go.

I have always avoided graphics like the plague and now I know nothing about
handling them.

Thanks heaps
Helen

"Di Maloney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Helen,

Scanning it in colour should give you the result you need and saving as a
JPEG will reduce it in size.
Another way you can reduce it in size is to edit it thru Irfanview (free
from web).

We use Irfanview to reduce huge pictures at work and they turn out great.

Di

"Helen Castle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| The original (certified copy) is a bluish background with black laser
| printing on it.
|
| I want to preserve the colour and the typing to send to the sisters of
the
| person and limit the file to below 1M if possible.
|
| I know I cant preserve the feint blue watermark map of Australia with
| "Births, deaths and marriages" emblazoned on it but would like to
preserve
| the bluish colour of the overall background.
|
| It is A4 and very good quality paper that it is printed on - well better
| than I use.
|
| Helen Castle
| Narangba Qld
|
|
| "tim sewell" <[email protected]> wrote
in
| message news:[email protected]...
|
| > "Helen Castle" <[email protected]> wrote
|
| >> I have never paid any attention to how to manipulate graphics in my
| > computer
| >> and need some help.
|
| >> I have the original of a death cert which I have scanned.
|
| >> the properties of the file are A4 size but 11Meg!!! at 200dpi
|
| >> What setting can I fiddle to make it a still readable (NSW BDM
| > certified
| >> copy) and able to email?
|
|
| > Helen,
|
| > You may not need to use any graphics manipulation at all.
|
| > From the size of your file I deduce that you have scanned the
| > certificate in colour, and saved it as a BMP or uncompressed TIFF
file.
| > You should be able to produce an emailable sized file by merely
| > rescanning the certificate.
|
| > I just tried a series of test runs on an A4 sheet with my Canon
scanner
| > at 200 dpi. The resulting file sizes are :
|
| > Uncompressed files :
| > Colour BMP file - 11,325 kB
| > (looks familiar ? !)
| > Greyscale BMP file - 3,783 kB
| > Black & White BMP file - 475 kB
|
| > Compressed files (sizes will vary depending on the details of the
| > original):
| > Colour JPG file - 400 kB
| > Greyscale JPG file - 391 kB
| > B & W PNG file - 67 kB
|
| > I don't know if your scanner will give you the option to save the scan
| > as a PNG file. If it doesn't, then save as B&W in whatever format you
| > can, and then convert to PNG or other compressed format in Irfanview
| > (free from http://www.irfanview.net/ ) or whatever other graphics
| > program you have available to you.
|
| > If you are starting from a Black and White original (eg a typical
| > photocopy), then you would gain nothing from the extra information
that
| > would be generated by a greyscale or colour scan.
|
| > Even if the reduction from 11 MB Colour BMP to 67 kB B&W PNG sounds
| > excessive, try it out on your original and see if you are satisfied
with
| > the outcome. If not, the B&W BMP file will still be small enough to
send
| > via email.
|
| > HTH
| > Cheers
| > --
| > Tim S.
|
| > (Please remove my fairly obvious spamtrap
| > if you wish to reply by direct email)
|
|
|

[Di Maloney]

Helen,

Even if it is on the small side, if it is inserted into a Word document, it
can be resized and printed out or they can use Irvanview to make it larger.

Di
"Helen Castle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| This sounds good will give it a go.
|
| I have always avoided graphics like the plague and now I know nothing
about
| handling them.
|
| Thanks heaps
| Helen
|
| "Di Maloney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
| news:[email protected]...
| > Helen,
| >
| > Scanning it in colour should give you the result you need and saving as
a
| > JPEG will reduce it in size.
| > Another way you can reduce it in size is to edit it thru Irfanview (free
| > from web).
| >
| > We use Irfanview to reduce huge pictures at work and they turn out
great.
| >
| > Di
| >
| > "Helen Castle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
| > news:[email protected]...
| > | The original (certified copy) is a bluish background with black laser
| > | printing on it.
| > |
| > | I want to preserve the colour and the typing to send to the sisters of
| > the
| > | person and limit the file to below 1M if possible.
| > |
| > | I know I cant preserve the feint blue watermark map of Australia with
| > | "Births, deaths and marriages" emblazoned on it but would like to
| > preserve
| > | the bluish colour of the overall background.
| > |
| > | It is A4 and very good quality paper that it is printed on - well
better
| > | than I use.
| > |
| > | Helen Castle
| > | Narangba Qld
| > |
| > |
| > | "tim sewell" <[email protected]>
wrote
| > in
| > | message news:[email protected]...
| > | >
| > | > "Helen Castle" <[email protected]> wrote
| > | >
| > | >> I have never paid any attention to how to manipulate graphics in my
| > | > computer
| > | >> and need some help.
| > | >>
| > | >> I have the original of a death cert which I have scanned.
| > | >>
| > | >> the properties of the file are A4 size but 11Meg!!! at 200dpi
| > | >>
| > | >> What setting can I fiddle to make it a still readable (NSW BDM
| > | > certified
| > | >> copy) and able to email?
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | > Helen,
| > | >
| > | > You may not need to use any graphics manipulation at all.
| > | >
| > | > From the size of your file I deduce that you have scanned the
| > | > certificate in colour, and saved it as a BMP or uncompressed TIFF
| > file.
| > | > You should be able to produce an emailable sized file by merely
| > | > rescanning the certificate.
| > | >
| > | > I just tried a series of test runs on an A4 sheet with my Canon
| > scanner
| > | > at 200 dpi. The resulting file sizes are :
| > | >
| > | > Uncompressed files :
| > | > Colour BMP file - 11,325 kB
| > | > (looks familiar ? !)
| > | > Greyscale BMP file - 3,783 kB
| > | > Black & White BMP file - 475 kB
| > | >
| > | > Compressed files (sizes will vary depending on the details of the
| > | > original):
| > | > Colour JPG file - 400 kB
| > | > Greyscale JPG file - 391 kB
| > | > B & W PNG file - 67 kB
| > | >
| > | > I don't know if your scanner will give you the option to save the
scan
| > | > as a PNG file. If it doesn't, then save as B&W in whatever format
you
| > | > can, and then convert to PNG or other compressed format in Irfanview
| > | > (free from http://www.irfanview.net/ ) or whatever other graphics
| > | > program you have available to you.
| > | >
| > | > If you are starting from a Black and White original (eg a typical
| > | > photocopy), then you would gain nothing from the extra information
| > that
| > | > would be generated by a greyscale or colour scan.
| > | >
| > | > Even if the reduction from 11 MB Colour BMP to 67 kB B&W PNG sounds
| > | > excessive, try it out on your original and see if you are satisfied
| > with
| > | > the outcome. If not, the B&W BMP file will still be small enough to
| > send
| > | > via email.
| > | >
| > | > HTH
| > | > Cheers
| > | > --
| > | > Tim S.
| > | >
| > | > (Please remove my fairly obvious spamtrap
| > | > if you wish to reply by direct email)
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

[Allen]

Di Maloney wrote:

Helen,

Scanning it in colour should give you the result you need and saving as a
JPEG will reduce it in size.
Another way you can reduce it in size is to edit it thru Irfanview (free
from web).

We use Irfanview to reduce huge pictures at work and they turn out great.

Di

I was going to recommend Irfanview but Di beat me to it. It is free and

downloadable from many sources. Google for it, download it, and play
around with it it. I would suggest that you NOT overwrite your original
scan until you find an acceptable file format. I would start by
outputting a file in black-and-white, jpeg (or .jpg--same thing), and
about 200 bpi; see what that does for file size and for quality. Good luck.
Allen

[Charlie Hoffpauir]

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:01:46 +1000, "Helen Castle"
<[email protected]> wrote:

I can open it with any of the graphics programs I have.
Corel Draw
Paint
MS Photo Editor
Kodak camera thingo
Adobe image thingo

I know about file associations and programs - what I want to know is what
settings give a good image for a scan of a death certificate from NSW BDM's

My problem is I scan lots of stuff and it ends up massive and I have to
resize it to send it or view it in any documents

I would like to know a good all round setting for scanning a certificate
which still renders it readable but not massive in size.

Helen Castle
Narangba Qld





"Paul Blair" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Helen Castle wrote:
Hi there,

I have never paid any attention to how to manipulate graphics in my
computer and need some help.

I have the original of a death cert which I have scanned.

the properties of the file are A4 size but 11Meg!!! at 200dpi

What setting can I fiddle to make it a still readable (NSW BDM certified
copy) and able to email?

you would think that after 17 years of using computers I would know but
graphics are just not my thing.
That reminds me I purchased my first second hand computer in Jan 1990 for
the princely sum of $1000 - they havent got much dearer

Helen Castle
Narangba Qld 4504
Helen

If you double click on the file name, what does it open in? Paint? MS
Office Picture Manager? Picasa? Something else? (look at the topmost
screen line if you are uncertain..)

Paul

Helen,

Sorry I've come to the thread a bit late, but I'll add my comments
anyway.

I've found that the "solution" really isn't universal... it depends a
lot of the scan you get, ie, if it's "clean" without a lot of darkish
smudges, the conversion to a Black & White GIF file type seems to work
very well. If you must have color, ie, ocntains something in color
that you want to retain, then 256-color GIF seems to do a good job. I
generally prefer GIF to JPG because you do get compression artifacts
with JPG, and because GIF is a "lossless" format. However, since
you're limiting to 256 colors whereas JPG can contain thousands, you
do still lose color information.

For document scans that are "smudged", it's more difficult to get a
good reduced file size copy. With the software you have, you can try
scanning in color, and then selecting among different "color filters"
to see if you can imporve the overall look. Often though, its
necessary to just convert to a JPG image and live with the compression
artifacts. But it's still a good idea to play around with the
"compression factor".... varying it to see how the different factors
affect both the file size and the look of the document. WIth some
scans, you can go with a lot of compression and still get a good
looking document scan.... with others, particularly if there is a lot
of fine print, you may not be able to compress as much.

Finally, for really difficult but important documents, I find it
better to scan into an uncompressed TIF file, the open the file in
Photoshop (or whatever graphics program you prefer) and play around
the the curves, trying to enhance the printing while minimizing the
smudges. Then after manipulation, convert the document to a PDF for
maximum legibility and minimum file size. I've converted a couple of
out-of-print genealogy books (Hoffpauir family books, not commercial
books) to PDF files this way.

If you are interested in seeing one such scan, you can download one of
the books by clicking here:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com ... LamarB.pdf

But be aware, it's a big download of a 225 page boook in PDF format.
The file size is 22 MB.


Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:01:46 +1000, "Helen Castle"
<[email protected]> declaimed the following in
soc.genealogy.computing:

I know about file associations and programs - what I want to know is what
settings give a good image for a scan of a death certificate from NSW BDM's

My problem is I scan lots of stuff and it ends up massive and I have to
resize it to send it or view it in any documents

I would like to know a good all round setting for scanning a certificate
which still renders it readable but not massive in size.

1 -- are you scanning in color, grey, or pure B/W (may depend upon

the source material; I'd tend never to use B/W converting to B/W in
PhotoShop after cleaning up the scan). Color will use, typically, three
times the size of grey (and grey would be 8 times the size of B/W).

2 -- intended usage. To reproduce at 1:1 scale, on most any decent
printer, a color or grey image, the scan should be at 300PPI (pure B/W
could go to 600/720PPI as decent printers can produce pure black drops
at those resolutions). To reproduce at half size, you could scan at
150PPI and then change the "resolution" (do not "resample") back to
300PPI in a photo editor. For screen display ONLY, the typical values
used are 72/96 (original Macintosh displays were fixed at 72DPI; to
change resolution one had to buy a different monitor. This is where they
became famous for WYSIWYG page layout; pages are layed out on 72 points
per inch, so each Mac monitor pixel was one printer point)[Windows
computes stuff on a basis of 96DPI monitors, but since one can change
the resolution of the display card without changing monitor the actual
display could be higher/lower resolution]

3 -- file format... I'd not suggest JPEG for text scans, as it
artifacts too easily (it is meant for color range giving up transition
details). LZW compressed TIFF, compressed PNG, may be possibles.
--
bieber.genealogy Dennis Lee Bieber
HTTP://home.earthlink.net/~bieber.genealogy/

[Paul Blair]

Helen Castle wrote:

I can open it with any of the graphics programs I have.
Corel Draw
Paint
MS Photo Editor
Kodak camera thingo
Adobe image thingo

I know about file associations and programs - what I want to know is what
settings give a good image for a scan of a death certificate from NSW BDM's

My problem is I scan lots of stuff and it ends up massive and I have to
resize it to send it or view it in any documents

I would like to know a good all round setting for scanning a certificate
which still renders it readable but not massive in size.

Helen Castle
Narangba Qld





"Paul Blair" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Helen Castle wrote:
Hi there,

I have never paid any attention to how to manipulate graphics in my
computer and need some help.

I have the original of a death cert which I have scanned.

the properties of the file are A4 size but 11Meg!!! at 200dpi

What setting can I fiddle to make it a still readable (NSW BDM certified
copy) and able to email?

you would think that after 17 years of using computers I would know but
graphics are just not my thing.
That reminds me I purchased my first second hand computer in Jan 1990 for
the princely sum of $1000 - they havent got much dearer

Helen Castle
Narangba Qld 4504
Helen

If you double click on the file name, what does it open in? Paint? MS
Office Picture Manager? Picasa? Something else? (look at the topmost
screen line if you are uncertain..)

Paul

OK, start with 11 MB. When you scan, there is probably a size option
that you can choose, given in per cent. Full size is obviously 100% -
but if you change that to (say) 25%, the final scanned size will be 1/16
of that size, 687KB. Maybe still too big? OK, try 20%, which gives 1/25
of original, equals 440KB. Getting closer...

Paul

[TomAlciere]

Helen Castle wrote:

Hi there,

I have never paid any attention to how to manipulate graphics in my computer
and need some help.

I have the original of a death cert which I have scanned.

the properties of the file are A4 size but 11Meg!!! at 200dpi

What setting can I fiddle to make it a still readable (NSW BDM certified
copy) and able to email?

you would think that after 17 years of using computers I would know but
graphics are just not my thing.
That reminds me I purchased my first second hand computer in Jan 1990 for
the princely sum of $1000 - they havent got much dearer

Helen Castle
Narangba Qld 4504

IIRC, ISA A4 is 210 by 297 mm

However, that might be the PAPER size as opposed to the COMPUTER SCREEN
size. The same image that is 210 x 297 mm on paper would be much larger
on a computer monitor.

I remember learning this at Kinko's.