GENEALOGY DB Joseph J. Borrello

[Daniel Rose]

Having access to some large files prepared with the above software, I would
like to know if the program can export to GEDCOM format or another one
compatible with Family Tree Maker. Research on the Internet indicates that
in 2003 Mr. Borrello left a bequest to the library of Covina, CA, the
location of his P.O. box. So apparently he would not be available to
provide technical support.

Would anyone know if there is some other way to locate assistance for this
program? The only reference on the Internet I could find to Geneware is a
biotechnology process.

Thank you,
Daniel
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Members.
Yup, this is old. Please send updated info to [email protected]
Brother's Keeper info updated on 7/4/93. . .

SUMMARY OF GENEALOGY SOFTWARE
Compiled by Richard A. Pence . . .

.. . . GENEALOGY DB Joseph J. Borrello, P.O. Box 4459, Covina, CA 91723. For
IBM compatible machines. Written in dBASE III programming language (but
doesn't require you to have dBASE), is available in both regular and LDS
versions. Minimum hardware requirements are DOS, 512 kb of RAM, one floppy
or hard disk drive. Genealogy db can be ordered from the author, for $95.
Operating instructions included in a file on the diskette. Demo versions,
limited to 50 persons and 25 marriages, are available for $9.50, and on some
BBSs. Also available from Geneware, P.O. Box 55249, Riverside, CA 92517. . .

[Robert Heiling]

Daniel Rose wrote:

Having access to some large files prepared with the above software, I would
like to know if the program can export to GEDCOM format or another one
compatible with Family Tree Maker. Research on the Internet indicates that
in 2003 Mr. Borrello left a bequest to the library of Covina, CA, the
location of his P.O. box. So apparently he would not be available to
provide technical support.

It appears from the SSDI that he passed away 29 May 2002

Would anyone know if there is some other way to locate assistance for this
program? The only reference on the Internet I could find to Geneware is a
biotechnology process.

I see from the description that it's written in dBASE III and database
discussions take place rather frequently in the soc.genealogy.computing
newsgroup. I'm not sure that many of the people who are expert follow
alt.genealogy, so you may wish to post your request in the computing
newsgroup.

Good luck
Bob

Thank you,
Daniel
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Members.
Yup, this is old. Please send updated info to [email protected]
Brother's Keeper info updated on 7/4/93. . .

SUMMARY OF GENEALOGY SOFTWARE
Compiled by Richard A. Pence . . .

. . . GENEALOGY DB Joseph J. Borrello, P.O. Box 4459, Covina, CA 91723. For
IBM compatible machines. Written in dBASE III programming language (but
doesn't require you to have dBASE), is available in both regular and LDS
versions. Minimum hardware requirements are DOS, 512 kb of RAM, one floppy
or hard disk drive. Genealogy db can be ordered from the author, for $95.
Operating instructions included in a file on the diskette. Demo versions,
limited to 50 persons and 25 marriages, are available for $9.50, and on some
BBSs. Also available from Geneware, P.O. Box 55249, Riverside, CA 92517. . .

[Robert Heiling]

Robert Heiling wrote:

Daniel Rose wrote:

My apologies. I lost track of what newsgroup I was in. Things are
getting pretty bad when that happens. Sorry!

Bob

[David]

As long as the information is stored in a DBase III format it can be
"easily" retrieved. There a number of inexpensive applications on the market
that convert DBase formated information into more common and open
structures.

One way to achieve this is to import the DBase III file into a Microsoft
Access database (using Access 2003), then saving the resulting data into a
Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. That file can then be converted into a GEDCOM
format using the Excel to GEDCOM converter discussed at
http://rmhh.co.uk/legacy.html

Let me know how you make out!

David Moufarrege, MCP


"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:P4Z%[email protected]...

Having access to some large files prepared with the above software, I
would like to know if the program can export to GEDCOM format or another
one compatible with Family Tree Maker. Research on the Internet indicates
that in 2003 Mr. Borrello left a bequest to the library of Covina, CA, the
location of his P.O. box. So apparently he would not be available to
provide technical support.

Would anyone know if there is some other way to locate assistance for this
program? The only reference on the Internet I could find to Geneware is a
biotechnology process.

Thank you,
Daniel
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Copied October 2, 2005

. . .Special thanks to James Moores for sharing this info to the Roots-L
Members.
Yup, this is old. Please send updated info to [email protected]
Brother's Keeper info updated on 7/4/93. . .

SUMMARY OF GENEALOGY SOFTWARE
Compiled by Richard A. Pence . . .

. . . GENEALOGY DB Joseph J. Borrello, P.O. Box 4459, Covina, CA 91723.
For IBM compatible machines. Written in dBASE III programming language
(but doesn't require you to have dBASE), is available in both regular and
LDS versions. Minimum hardware requirements are DOS, 512 kb of RAM, one
floppy or hard disk drive. Genealogy db can be ordered from the author,
for $95. Operating instructions included in a file on the diskette. Demo
versions, limited to 50 persons and 25 marriages, are available for $9.50,
and on some BBSs. Also available from Geneware, P.O. Box 55249, Riverside,
CA 92517. . .

[Joe Pessarra]

"Robert Heiling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Robert Heiling wrote:

Daniel Rose wrote:

My apologies. I lost track of what newsgroup I was in. Things are
getting pretty bad when that happens. Sorry!

Bob

At 74, I am thinking on my part that things are "staying pretty normal", not
"getting pretty bad" when that happens.

Joe

[Robert Heiling]

Joe Pessarra wrote:

"Robert Heiling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Robert Heiling wrote:

Daniel Rose wrote:

My apologies. I lost track of what newsgroup I was in. Things are
getting pretty bad when that happens. Sorry!

Bob

At 74, I am thinking on my part that things are "staying pretty normal", not
"getting pretty bad" when that happens.

Scary ain't it? Seriously though, I was (and still am) trying to
solve a 'cousin' relationship mystery, had my genealogy database open. a
couple of open browser windows, and my mind was mostly on that when I
decided to take a quick look at the newsgroups and made that stupid
response. Mental overload I guess. At least that's the story I'm
using.<g>

Bob

[Joe Pessarra]

"Robert Heiling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Scary ain't it? Seriously though, I was (and still am) trying to
solve a 'cousin' relationship mystery, had my genealogy database open. a
couple of open browser windows, and my mind was mostly on that when I
decided to take a quick look at the newsgroups and made that stupid
response. Mental overload I guess. At least that's the story I'm
using.<g

Bob

It's called multi-tasking, Bob. Doing an Internet search for multi-tasking
finds ne site at
http://www.yourwindow.to/information-se ... asking.htm that shows
the following:

"Multi-tasking

Doing more than one thing at a time - or so it would seem. Human beings can
multi-task: breathing, walking, thinking, and chewing gum, all at the very
same time - but single processor computers do not.

It may seem that, for example, when a user is printing a file and viewing
Web pages on the Net, the computer is doing two things at once, but, in
practice, it is handling bits of each job, one after the other, so quickly
that it just looks as though they are being done at the same time. Purists
maintain that true multi-tasking requires more than one processor.

As the two or more programs squabble for memory space or communication port
access on a single processor machine - such as a PC - multi-tasking causes
more hang-ups, freezing, and plain JOOTTs than any other factor."

(Had to look up JOOTS - Means Jumping Out Of The System).

So you see, your computer is just not smart enough. Besides checking your
spelling, it should also have let you know that your answer was completely
correct, but part of it was superfluous (love that word). My computer and I
both have JOOTS at least weekly, if not more often.

Hope you find you cousin's place in your genealogy.

Joe

[Daniel Rose]

Thanks for indicating that I am indeed in the most appropriate newsgroup.

Would there be any point in posting the question to [email protected]?

Thank you,
Daniel

"Robert Heiling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Robert Heiling wrote:

Daniel Rose wrote:

My apologies. I lost track of what newsgroup I was in. Things are
getting pretty bad when that happens. Sorry!

Bob

[Daniel Rose]

Thank you for the valuable advice. It will take about a month to get the
files from the cousin who developed them. I will get back to you then.

I assume Access _2002_ would work. Its "Open/Files of type" drop-down list
does include "dBASEIII (*.dbf)". It will not "Save As" Excel, but will
"Export to" Excel.

--Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:CD_%[email protected]...

As long as the information is stored in a DBase III format it can be
"easily" retrieved. There a number of inexpensive applications on the
market that convert DBase formated information into more common and open
structures.

One way to achieve this is to import the DBase III file into a Microsoft
Access database (using Access 2003), then saving the resulting data into a
Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. That file can then be converted into a GEDCOM
format using the Excel to GEDCOM converter discussed at
http://rmhh.co.uk/legacy.html

Let me know how you make out!

David Moufarrege, MCP


"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:P4Z%[email protected]...
Having access to some large files prepared with the above software, I
would like to know if the program can export to GEDCOM format or another
one compatible with Family Tree Maker. Research on the Internet
indicates that in 2003 Mr. Borrello left a bequest to the library of
Covina, CA, the location of his P.O. box. So apparently he would not be
available to provide technical support.

Would anyone know if there is some other way to locate assistance for
this program? The only reference on the Internet I could find to
Geneware is a biotechnology process.

Thank you,
Daniel
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/roots-l/faq/faq.pc
Copied October 2, 2005

. . .Special thanks to James Moores for sharing this info to the Roots-L
Members.
Yup, this is old. Please send updated info to [email protected]
Brother's Keeper info updated on 7/4/93. . .

SUMMARY OF GENEALOGY SOFTWARE
Compiled by Richard A. Pence . . .

. . . GENEALOGY DB Joseph J. Borrello, P.O. Box 4459, Covina, CA 91723.
For IBM compatible machines. Written in dBASE III programming language
(but doesn't require you to have dBASE), is available in both regular and
LDS versions. Minimum hardware requirements are DOS, 512 kb of RAM, one
floppy or hard disk drive. Genealogy db can be ordered from the author,
for $95. Operating instructions included in a file on the diskette. Demo
versions, limited to 50 persons and 25 marriages, are available for
$9.50, and on some BBSs. Also available from Geneware, P.O. Box 55249,
Riverside, CA 92517. . .

[David]

That should not be a problem. However, take note that Microsoft has updated
database drivers for DBase III that you should download before opening the
DBase III files.

"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Thank you for the valuable advice. It will take about a month to get the
files from the cousin who developed them. I will get back to you then.

I assume Access _2002_ would work. Its "Open/Files of type" drop-down
list does include "dBASEIII (*.dbf)". It will not "Save As" Excel, but
will "Export to" Excel.

--Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:CD_%[email protected]...
As long as the information is stored in a DBase III format it can be
"easily" retrieved. There a number of inexpensive applications on the
market that convert DBase formated information into more common and open
structures.

One way to achieve this is to import the DBase III file into a Microsoft
Access database (using Access 2003), then saving the resulting data into
a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. That file can then be converted into a
GEDCOM format using the Excel to GEDCOM converter discussed at
http://rmhh.co.uk/legacy.html

Let me know how you make out!

David Moufarrege, MCP


"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:P4Z%[email protected]...
Having access to some large files prepared with the above software, I
would like to know if the program can export to GEDCOM format or another
one compatible with Family Tree Maker. Research on the Internet
indicates that in 2003 Mr. Borrello left a bequest to the library of
Covina, CA, the location of his P.O. box. So apparently he would not be
available to provide technical support.

Would anyone know if there is some other way to locate assistance for
this program? The only reference on the Internet I could find to
Geneware is a biotechnology process.

Thank you,
Daniel
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/roots-l/faq/faq.pc
Copied October 2, 2005

. . .Special thanks to James Moores for sharing this info to the Roots-L
Members.
Yup, this is old. Please send updated info to [email protected]
Brother's Keeper info updated on 7/4/93. . .

SUMMARY OF GENEALOGY SOFTWARE
Compiled by Richard A. Pence . . .

. . . GENEALOGY DB Joseph J. Borrello, P.O. Box 4459, Covina, CA 91723.
For IBM compatible machines. Written in dBASE III programming language
(but doesn't require you to have dBASE), is available in both regular
and LDS versions. Minimum hardware requirements are DOS, 512 kb of RAM,
one floppy or hard disk drive. Genealogy db can be ordered from the
author, for $95. Operating instructions included in a file on the
diskette. Demo versions, limited to 50 persons and 25 marriages, are
available for $9.50, and on some BBSs. Also available from Geneware,
P.O. Box 55249, Riverside, CA 92517. . .

[Daniel Rose]

Hello David,

Having looked all over the Microsoft general and Office sites, I could not
find a download specifically for updated dBASE III drivers.

I have Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Office XP (=2002) Service Pack 3
installed. Would either of those include the current DBase III drivers?
For instance, one page on microsoft.com states,

"Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) 2.8 SP1 contains core Data Access
components such as the Microsoft SQL ServerT OLE DB provider and ODBC
driver. This redistributable installer for the MDAC 2.8 SP1 release installs
the same Data Access components as Microsoft Windows XP SP2.

"This release does not include Microsoft Jet, the Microsoft Jet OLE DB
Provider or ODBC driver, the Desktop Database ODBC Drivers, or the Visual
FoxPro ODBC Driver."

I couldn't find the "Desktop Database ODBC Drivers" anywhere, in case you
are referring to those.

From another angle, Excel 2002 will either "open" or "import" "dBASE" files.
Would that work, or would I need the "dBASE III" specificity of Access?

Thank you,
Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

That should not be a problem. However, take note that Microsoft has
updated database drivers for DBase III that you should download before
opening the DBase III files.

"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Thank you for the valuable advice. It will take about a month to get the
files from the cousin who developed them. I will get back to you then.

I assume Access _2002_ would work. Its "Open/Files of type" drop-down
list does include "dBASEIII (*.dbf)". It will not "Save As" Excel, but
will "Export to" Excel.

--Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:CD_%[email protected]...
As long as the information is stored in a DBase III format it can be
"easily" retrieved. There a number of inexpensive applications on the
market that convert DBase formated information into more common and open
structures.

One way to achieve this is to import the DBase III file into a Microsoft
Access database (using Access 2003), then saving the resulting data into
a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. That file can then be converted into a
GEDCOM format using the Excel to GEDCOM converter discussed at
http://rmhh.co.uk/legacy.html

Let me know how you make out!

David Moufarrege, MCP

[David]

Daniel,

That should work fine for you.

- David


"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Hello David,

Having looked all over the Microsoft general and Office sites, I could not
find a download specifically for updated dBASE III drivers.

I have Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Office XP (=2002) Service Pack 3
installed. Would either of those include the current DBase III drivers?
For instance, one page on microsoft.com states,

"Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) 2.8 SP1 contains core Data Access
components such as the Microsoft SQL ServerT OLE DB provider and ODBC
driver. This redistributable installer for the MDAC 2.8 SP1 release
installs the same Data Access components as Microsoft Windows XP SP2.

"This release does not include Microsoft Jet, the Microsoft Jet OLE DB
Provider or ODBC driver, the Desktop Database ODBC Drivers, or the Visual
FoxPro ODBC Driver."

I couldn't find the "Desktop Database ODBC Drivers" anywhere, in case you
are referring to those.

From another angle, Excel 2002 will either "open" or "import" "dBASE"
files. Would that work, or would I need the "dBASE III" specificity of
Access?

Thank you,
Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
That should not be a problem. However, take note that Microsoft has
updated database drivers for DBase III that you should download before
opening the DBase III files.

"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Thank you for the valuable advice. It will take about a month to get
the files from the cousin who developed them. I will get back to you
then.

I assume Access _2002_ would work. Its "Open/Files of type" drop-down
list does include "dBASEIII (*.dbf)". It will not "Save As" Excel, but
will "Export to" Excel.

--Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:CD_%[email protected]...
As long as the information is stored in a DBase III format it can be
"easily" retrieved. There a number of inexpensive applications on the
market that convert DBase formated information into more common and
open structures.

One way to achieve this is to import the DBase III file into a
Microsoft Access database (using Access 2003), then saving the
resulting data into a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. That file can then
be converted into a GEDCOM format using the Excel to GEDCOM converter
discussed at http://rmhh.co.uk/legacy.html

Let me know how you make out!

David Moufarrege, MCP

[Daniel Rose]

Hello David,

Did you mean that importing from a dBASE III file directly into Excel,
without first going through Access, should work fine; or that I already have
the updated dBASE III drivers as part of a Windows XP or Office XP service
pack?

If these packs do not include the drivers you recommended, would there be a
URL you know of, from which I could download them? I spent several hours
searching in vain on Microsoft's general and Office Web sites.

Thank you,
Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Daniel,

That should work fine for you.

- David
"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hello David,

Having looked all over the Microsoft general and Office sites, I could
not find a download specifically for updated dBASE III drivers.

I have Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Office XP (=2002) Service Pack 3
installed. Would either of those include the current DBase III drivers?
For instance, one page on microsoft.com states,

"Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) 2.8 SP1 contains core Data
Access components such as the Microsoft SQL ServerT OLE DB provider and
ODBC driver. This redistributable installer for the MDAC 2.8 SP1 release
installs the same Data Access components as Microsoft Windows XP SP2.

"This release does not include Microsoft Jet, the Microsoft Jet OLE DB
Provider or ODBC driver, the Desktop Database ODBC Drivers, or the Visual
FoxPro ODBC Driver."

I couldn't find the "Desktop Database ODBC Drivers" anywhere, in case you
are referring to those.

From another angle, Excel 2002 will either "open" or "import" "dBASE"
files. Would that work, or would I need the "dBASE III" specificity of
Access?

Thank you,
Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
That should not be a problem. However, take note that Microsoft has
updated database drivers for DBase III that you should download before
opening the DBase III files.

"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Thank you for the valuable advice. It will take about a month to get
the files from the cousin who developed them. I will get back to you
then.

I assume Access _2002_ would work. Its "Open/Files of type" drop-down
list does include "dBASEIII (*.dbf)". It will not "Save As" Excel, but
will "Export to" Excel.

--Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:CD_%[email protected]...
As long as the information is stored in a DBase III format it can be
"easily" retrieved. There a number of inexpensive applications on the
market that convert DBase formated information into more common and
open structures.

One way to achieve this is to import the DBase III file into a
Microsoft Access database (using Access 2003), then saving the
resulting data into a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. That file can then
be converted into a GEDCOM format using the Excel to GEDCOM converter
discussed at http://rmhh.co.uk/legacy.html

Let me know how you make out!

David Moufarrege, MCP

[David]

Hi Daniel,

The drivers provided as part of your current Access installation should work
fine. Also, you'll have the advantage that you can use Access to structure a
query that will produce an Excel export exactly to the liking of the Excel
to GEDCOM converter.

- David

"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Hello David,

Did you mean that importing from a dBASE III file directly into Excel,
without first going through Access, should work fine; or that I already
have the updated dBASE III drivers as part of a Windows XP or Office XP
service pack?

If these packs do not include the drivers you recommended, would there be
a URL you know of, from which I could download them? I spent several hours
searching in vain on Microsoft's general and Office Web sites.

Thank you,
Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Daniel,

That should work fine for you.

- David
"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hello David,

Having looked all over the Microsoft general and Office sites, I could
not find a download specifically for updated dBASE III drivers.

I have Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Office XP (=2002) Service Pack 3
installed. Would either of those include the current DBase III drivers?
For instance, one page on microsoft.com states,

"Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) 2.8 SP1 contains core Data
Access components such as the Microsoft SQL ServerT OLE DB provider and
ODBC driver. This redistributable installer for the MDAC 2.8 SP1 release
installs the same Data Access components as Microsoft Windows XP SP2.

"This release does not include Microsoft Jet, the Microsoft Jet OLE DB
Provider or ODBC driver, the Desktop Database ODBC Drivers, or the
Visual FoxPro ODBC Driver."

I couldn't find the "Desktop Database ODBC Drivers" anywhere, in case
you are referring to those.

From another angle, Excel 2002 will either "open" or "import" "dBASE"
files. Would that work, or would I need the "dBASE III" specificity of
Access?

Thank you,
Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
That should not be a problem. However, take note that Microsoft has
updated database drivers for DBase III that you should download before
opening the DBase III files.

"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Thank you for the valuable advice. It will take about a month to get
the files from the cousin who developed them. I will get back to you
then.

I assume Access _2002_ would work. Its "Open/Files of type" drop-down
list does include "dBASEIII (*.dbf)". It will not "Save As" Excel,
but will "Export to" Excel.

--Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:CD_%[email protected]...
As long as the information is stored in a DBase III format it can be
"easily" retrieved. There a number of inexpensive applications on the
market that convert DBase formated information into more common and
open structures.

One way to achieve this is to import the DBase III file into a
Microsoft Access database (using Access 2003), then saving the
resulting data into a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. That file can then
be converted into a GEDCOM format using the Excel to GEDCOM converter
discussed at http://rmhh.co.uk/legacy.html

Let me know how you make out!

David Moufarrege, MCP

[Daniel Rose]

Hello David,

Sounds like an interesting challenge, to which I will look forward after I
get the Genealogy DB files from my cousin in a month or so, when I will
report back here.

Thank you again,
Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Hi Daniel,

The drivers provided as part of your current Access installation should
work fine. Also, you'll have the advantage that you can use Access to
structure a query that will produce an Excel export exactly to the liking
of the Excel to GEDCOM converter.

- David

"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hello David,

Did you mean that importing from a dBASE III file directly into Excel,
without first going through Access, should work fine; or that I already
have the updated dBASE III drivers as part of a Windows XP or Office XP
service pack?

If these packs do not include the drivers you recommended, would there be
a URL you know of, from which I could download them? I spent several
hours searching in vain on Microsoft's general and Office Web sites.

Thank you,
Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Daniel,

That should work fine for you.

- David
"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hello David,

Having looked all over the Microsoft general and Office sites, I could
not find a download specifically for updated dBASE III drivers.

I have Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Office XP (=2002) Service Pack 3
installed. Would either of those include the current DBase III
drivers? For instance, one page on microsoft.com states,

"Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) 2.8 SP1 contains core Data
Access components such as the Microsoft SQL ServerT OLE DB provider and
ODBC driver. This redistributable installer for the MDAC 2.8 SP1
release installs the same Data Access components as Microsoft Windows
XP SP2.

"This release does not include Microsoft Jet, the Microsoft Jet OLE DB
Provider or ODBC driver, the Desktop Database ODBC Drivers, or the
Visual FoxPro ODBC Driver."

I couldn't find the "Desktop Database ODBC Drivers" anywhere, in case
you are referring to those.

From another angle, Excel 2002 will either "open" or "import" "dBASE"
files. Would that work, or would I need the "dBASE III" specificity of
Access?

Thank you,
Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
That should not be a problem. However, take note that Microsoft has
updated database drivers for DBase III that you should download before
opening the DBase III files.

"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Thank you for the valuable advice. It will take about a month to get
the files from the cousin who developed them. I will get back to you
then.

I assume Access _2002_ would work. Its "Open/Files of type"
drop-down list does include "dBASEIII (*.dbf)". It will not "Save
As" Excel, but will "Export to" Excel.

--Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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As long as the information is stored in a DBase III format it can be
"easily" retrieved. There a number of inexpensive applications on
the market that convert DBase formated information into more common
and open structures.

One way to achieve this is to import the DBase III file into a
Microsoft Access database (using Access 2003), then saving the
resulting data into a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. That file can
then be converted into a GEDCOM format using the Excel to GEDCOM
converter discussed at http://rmhh.co.uk/legacy.html

Let me know how you make out!

David Moufarrege, MCP

[Daniel Rose]

Hi David,

Thank you again for your valuable advice from last fall. I indicated I'd
post back when I finally obtained the data from my cousin.

Unfortunately, the cousin passed away. His surviving spouse is unable to
location the backups she thought he'd made. While she is not familiar with
computers, her home-care assistant said the hard drive with the genealogy
data had been wiped clean for re-use.

I am trying to check with other cousins and the Cleveland Jewish Genealogy
Society for possible backups of the digital files. If I can't locate any,
and there is enough interest among several relatives, I guess we could enter
into another program the 885 entries from the formats we do have. We could
either type from paper printouts, or copy-and-paste from text-file dumps of
the printouts from Mr. Borrello's program. At least the latter is easier
than having to OCR and edit.

--Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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Hi Daniel,

The drivers provided as part of your current Access installation should
work fine. Also, you'll have the advantage that you can use Access to
structure a query that will produce an Excel export exactly to the liking
of the Excel to GEDCOM converter.

- David

"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Hello David,

Did you mean that importing from a dBASE III file directly into Excel,
without first going through Access, should work fine; or that I already
have the updated dBASE III drivers as part of a Windows XP or Office XP
service pack?

If these packs do not include the drivers you recommended, would there be
a URL you know of, from which I could download them? I spent several
hours searching in vain on Microsoft's general and Office Web sites.

Thank you,
Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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Daniel,

That should work fine for you.

- David
"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Hello David,

Having looked all over the Microsoft general and Office sites, I could
not find a download specifically for updated dBASE III drivers.

I have Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Office XP (=2002) Service Pack 3
installed. Would either of those include the current DBase III
drivers? For instance, one page on microsoft.com states,

"Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) 2.8 SP1 contains core Data
Access components such as the Microsoft SQL ServerT OLE DB provider and
ODBC driver. This redistributable installer for the MDAC 2.8 SP1
release installs the same Data Access components as Microsoft Windows
XP SP2.

"This release does not include Microsoft Jet, the Microsoft Jet OLE DB
Provider or ODBC driver, the Desktop Database ODBC Drivers, or the
Visual FoxPro ODBC Driver."

I couldn't find the "Desktop Database ODBC Drivers" anywhere, in case
you are referring to those.

From another angle, Excel 2002 will either "open" or "import" "dBASE"
files. Would that work, or would I need the "dBASE III" specificity of
Access?

Thank you,
Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
That should not be a problem. However, take note that Microsoft has
updated database drivers for DBase III that you should download before
opening the DBase III files.

"Daniel Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Thank you for the valuable advice. It will take about a month to get
the files from the cousin who developed them. I will get back to you
then.

I assume Access _2002_ would work. Its "Open/Files of type"
drop-down list does include "dBASEIII (*.dbf)". It will not "Save
As" Excel, but will "Export to" Excel.

--Daniel

"David" <krautusa@(rem0vethis)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:CD_%[email protected]...
As long as the information is stored in a DBase III format it can be
"easily" retrieved. There a number of inexpensive applications on
the market that convert DBase formated information into more common
and open structures.

One way to achieve this is to import the DBase III file into a
Microsoft Access database (using Access 2003), then saving the
resulting data into a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. That file can
then be converted into a GEDCOM format using the Excel to GEDCOM
converter discussed at http://rmhh.co.uk/legacy.html

Let me know how you make out!

David Moufarrege, MCP