"LDS to put microfilm in vaults on Internet"

[V. Chris and Tom Tinney,]

"LDS to put microfilm in vaults on Internet"
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,605153189,00.html
should be compared with previous information, way back in 2002:
http://www.steamboatlibrary.org/SelbyPo ... alogy.html
NOTES:
.. . .
"online databases are slowly making the preservation
and dissemination of original data obsolete."
.. . .
"When asked what would be one of the dissemination
activities the Church would like to see happen in the
future, Brent Thompson replied, 'To have every name
that is currently in an index record be linked back to
the original record to be viewed online.' . . . "
.. . .
"Brent Thompson also mentioned that he would like
to see 'the work of individuals be instantly linked to
one another so that the data one person is collecting
is shared with others working on the same branch
of a family tree.' . . . "

Respectfully yours,

Tom Tinney, Sr.
Who's Who in America, Millennium Edition [54th] - 2004
Who's Who In Genealogy and Heraldry, {both editions]
Genealogy and Family History Internet Web Directory
http://www.academic-genealogy.com/

[Lesley Robertson]

"V. Chris and Tom Tinney, Sr." <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...

. . .
"Brent Thompson also mentioned that he would like
to see 'the work of individuals be instantly linked to
one another so that the data one person is collecting
is shared with others working on the same branch
of a family tree.' . . . "

That's scary. Trees based on myth and wishful thinking automatically linked
to others, with no way tobe sure that they're right or not....... The lack
of any verification procedure has already made the LDS collection of Patron
Submissions pretty near unusable except as indications of a line of
research. There's just no way to sort the careful work of the majority from
the sloppy efforts of the monority.

I won't be giving up my use of real records, archives, etc.
Lesley Robertson

[David Harper]

V. Chris and Tom Tinney, Sr. wrote:

"online databases are slowly making the preservation
and dissemination of original data obsolete."
. . .

That makes me nervous. Web sites come and go. File formats become
obsolete and unreadable. Technology changes.

I imagine that the LDS will be around for a long long time to come, but
I hope that they don't intend to abandon tried and trusted archival methods.

Sometimes, the old technologies are the best. A recent news story,

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/09 ... ear_waste/

reports that the U.K. Atomic Energy Authority, which is responsible for
the long-term storage of nuclear waste from Britain's decommissioned
nuclear power stations, has decided to use papyrus to store information
about the contents of storage vaults containing uranium and plutonium waste.

This kind of nuclear material remains radioactive for thousands or
millions of years, so the UKAEA had to find a way to leave information
for future generations. They opted for acid-free archival paper, very
similar to Egyptian papyrus which has survived since the time of the
Pharaohs.

Maybe there is a lesson here for genealogists.

David Harper
Cambridge, England

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:53:04 +0200, "Lesley Robertson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

"V. Chris and Tom Tinney, Sr." <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
. . .
"Brent Thompson also mentioned that he would like
to see 'the work of individuals be instantly linked to
one another so that the data one person is collecting
is shared with others working on the same branch
of a family tree.' . . . "


That's scary. Trees based on myth and wishful thinking automatically linked
to others, with no way tobe sure that they're right or not....... The lack
of any verification procedure has already made the LDS collection of Patron
Submissions pretty near unusable except as indications of a line of
research. There's just no way to sort the careful work of the majority from
the sloppy efforts of the monority.

I won't be giving up my use of real records, archives, etc.
Lesley Robertson

Thank you for saving me the time and effort of wriring the above,
Lesley.

Hugh

[Charlie Hoffpauir]

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:53:04 +0200, "Lesley Robertson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

"V. Chris and Tom Tinney, Sr." <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
. . .
"Brent Thompson also mentioned that he would like
to see 'the work of individuals be instantly linked to
one another so that the data one person is collecting
is shared with others working on the same branch
of a family tree.' . . . "


That's scary. Trees based on myth and wishful thinking automatically linked
to others, with no way tobe sure that they're right or not....... The lack
of any verification procedure has already made the LDS collection of Patron
Submissions pretty near unusable except as indications of a line of
research. There's just no way to sort the careful work of the majority from
the sloppy efforts of the monority.

I won't be giving up my use of real records, archives, etc.
Lesley Robertson

Lesley,

Unfortunately you are right; but in the case of researchers of my
line, overly optimistic when you refer to the majority as careful
workers.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

[Lesley Robertson]

"Charlie Hoffpauir" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:53:04 +0200, "Lesley Robertson"
[email protected]> wrote:


"V. Chris and Tom Tinney, Sr." <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
. . .
"Brent Thompson also mentioned that he would like
to see 'the work of individuals be instantly linked to
one another so that the data one person is collecting
is shared with others working on the same branch
of a family tree.' . . . "


That's scary. Trees based on myth and wishful thinking automatically
linked
to others, with no way tobe sure that they're right or not....... The lack
of any verification procedure has already made the LDS collection of
Patron
Submissions pretty near unusable except as indications of a line of
research. There's just no way to sort the careful work of the majority
from
the sloppy efforts of the monority.

I won't be giving up my use of real records, archives, etc.
Lesley Robertson


Lesley,

Unfortunately you are right; but in the case of researchers of my
line, overly optimistic when you refer to the majority as careful
workers.

I was trying to be cautious - last time that I pointed out the SOME PS files
are not reliable, I got hit by a deluge of "I gve them my files and they're
reliable" messages!
I'm afraid that I ignore all PS data, despite the fact that theré's probably
some perfectly good stuff in there.
Lesley Robertson

[Robert M. Riches Jr.]

On 2005-09-11, David Harper <[email protected]> wrote:

That makes me nervous. Web sites come and go. File formats become
obsolete and unreadable. Technology changes.

I imagine that the LDS will be around for a long long time to come, but
I hope that they don't intend to abandon tried and trusted archival methods.

I'm nowhere near an official spokesperson, but having seen
the vaults partway up Little Cottonwood Canyon, SLC, I
suspect the original microfilms in them won't be going away
any time soon. Having been _extremely_ fortunate to have
toured the inside of the vaults, I am extremely impressed
with the size and sturdiness of the construction. (A good
friend of my parents worked in the vaults, and she chose us
to invite for the rather rare "friends and family" tour.)

No matter in what form new acquisitions are published, I
suspect that there will be at least one level of very
durable storage medium for each unique piece of information.

Robert Riches
[email protected]
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)