Tomas Pedersen

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Tomas Pedersen

Legg inn av gj04751 » 22. mars 2007 kl. 18.14

I am looking for infomation on the parents of Tomas Pedersen

Tomas was born 1807 Asperheim i Årdal i Sogn ( I believe Asperheim is an estate but I can find no listing for it)

His wife Marit Thommasdatter born 1832 Hæreid i Årdal i Sogn

Married 7 APR 1839 in Årdal i Sogn

I am also looking for infomation on Marit parents.

I found this old note and I was wondering if someone could translate it for me?

Muligens gift for andre gang med Marita Olsdatter, da han ved ekteskapsinngåelse i 1839 står registrert som enkemann. Samtidig er dette litt av et mysterium, da datteren Marit (f 1833) også hadde en Marita Olsdatter som mor i følge krikebøkene....
Flyttemelding sammen med konen Marita og barna Marit og Peder fra Lærdal (gården Asperheim) til Hitteren i Trondhjems stift, datert 23.06.1845.
I folketellinga 1865 står han regsitrert som boende hos sin sønn Ole Tomassen.

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    Knut Bryn
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    Re: Tomas Pedersen

    Legg inn av Knut Bryn » 23. mars 2007 kl. 9.24

    Hello, Mike!

    Here is a translation of your old note:

    "Muligens gift for andre gang med Marita Olsdatter, da han ved ekteskapsinngåelse i 1839 står registrert som enkemann. " --> His marriage with Marita Olsdatter was probably his second because he was recorded as widower when he married in 1839.

    "Samtidig er dette litt av et mysterium, da datteren Marit (f 1833) også hadde en Marita Olsdatter som mor i følge krikebøkene...." --> This is a little mysterious because his daughter Marit (b. 1833) according to the church books had a mother called Marita Olsdatter.

    "Flyttemelding sammen med konen Marita og barna Marit og Peder fra Lærdal (gården Asperheim) til Hitteren i Trondhjems stift, datert 23.06.1845." --> The moving record dated 23rd June 1845 contains his wife Marita and the children Marit and Peder from Lærdal [parish] (Asperheim farm) til Hitteren [now written Hitra].

    "I folketellinga 1865 står han regsitrert som boende hos sin sønn Ole Tomassen." --> In the 1865 census he is registered as living at the household of his son Ole Tomassen.

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    Re: Tomas Pedersen

    Legg inn av Knut Bryn » 23. mars 2007 kl. 10.33

    Hello again, Mike!

    I found this couple in a book with some farm history for this area [Krossen D.: "Bygdebok for Årdal. Slektsbandet" Årdal Kommune 1985, p. 132, 807, 847]. Here is a summary:

    Thomas was born in Hæreid main farm 1807, probably in a holding called Norra where his parents lived as cotters for several years. His father was Peder Simonsen (1776-1847) from Ivarsplassen holding under Hæreid. His mother was Brite Thomasdatter (b.1770) from Nørøyni holding under Øvsttun main farm in Øvre Årdal (means Upper Årdal). You will find this couple in the 1801 census at this URL http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=41&filnamn=f11422&gardpostnr=48&personpostnr=1515&merk=1515#ovre

    Thomas Pedersen was called "Norrasmeden" which means the blacksmith from Norra. He must have been a clever blacksmith! In 1830 he married Mari Olsdatter (b. 1804). Her parents were Ola Sjursen (1775-1870) and Marita Endresdatter (b.1772) who run Gjelseng holding in Asperheim main farm. You will find this couple in the 1801 census at this URL: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=4&filnamn=f11422&gardpostnr=71&personpostnr=2021&merk=2021#ovre

    Thomas and Mari lived at Haugen holding in Asperheim. In fact they were the first settlers here. They got 4 children: Brite (b.1830+), Marita (b.1833), Peder (b.1835) and Ole (b.1837). I must add that Mari had a child from before: Brite (b. 1828). Her father was Thomas Olsen Seim (b.1805). This child was married in Årdal 1850. Mari died when her last child was born.

    In 1839 Thomas married Marita Olsdatter [Krossen has 1845, but that must be a misunderstanding]. She was born 1798 as a daughter of Ole Olsen Hæreid (1770-1837) and Brite Mortensdatter Prestegaard (1774-1852) who ran one of the farms at Hæreid [also written Hærøe]. You will find this family in the 1801 census at this URL: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=11&filnamn=f11422&gardpostnr=48&personpostnr=1473&merk=1473#ovre

    Thomas got no children with his second wife, but she had a son from an earlier relationship: Thomas (1825-1844). His father was Henrik Endresen Hestetun.

    The source here, the Krossen bygdebook has got a lot of information of the ascending lines of this people. They were all members of basic Årdal families. I think you will find much of the key data in the Årdal database. You will find it here: http://www.sffarkiv.no/fhclub/bygdaard/index.html Be patient loading this database and search with the names of the main farms as surname.

    Good luck!

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    Re: Tomas Pedersen

    Legg inn av gj04751 » 24. mars 2007 kl. 2.25

    Wow! Many thanks Kurt.

    It will take a little time to digest all this info and the background.

    Just one quick question - what is Asperheim?

    Mike

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    Re: Tomas Pedersen

    Legg inn av Knut Bryn » 24. mars 2007 kl. 9.15

    Asperheim is a farm i Årdal parish. You will find it most online maps. You may for instance try this one: http://visveg.vegvesen.no/visveg-klient/VisVegAppletNoIE.html It work with most browsers (but not all). Just write Asperheim in the box below "Finn et sted" and click the yellow button below. You may zoom in with zooming bar upper right.

    Have a nice weekend!

    Knut Bryn, Molde

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    Re: Tomas Pedersen

    Legg inn av gj04751 » 29. mars 2007 kl. 3.40

    Hi Kurt,

    The Ardal Database was a wonderful sourse and I am very grateful.

    Do you know if the island of Froya, Sor-Trolang has a similar database?

    Mike

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    Re: Tomas Pedersen

    Legg inn av Knut Bryn » 10. april 2007 kl. 22.04

    No, I'm sorry. I think that there are quite few communities with such databases as the Ardal database. This one is established on the private initiative of Neil Hofland whose ancestors were from Årdal. But you will find printed books with very much genealogical information for quite a lot of Norwegian rural communities. These "bygdebooks" are very useful for genealogists searching information in Norway although the quality may differ. Most bygdebooks will be accessible thorugh the American library system.

    Here is a link to a list of some useful literature: http://home.online.no/~cfscheel/bb-index.htm

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    Re: Tomas Pedersen

    Legg inn av 17887 » 11. april 2007 kl. 7.01

    Lenke til bygdebok for Frøya:
    http://www.froya.kommune.no/Modules/art ... ory.ID=663

    mvh Aud Marion Røen

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