Arve Gundersen Ambjoernsrod>Troldalen &Elen Sophie Je

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Arve Gundersen Ambjoernsrod>Troldalen &Elen Sophie Je

Legg inn av gj23221 » 17. april 2015 kl. 11.23

Hi,
I am trying to discover who parents of Elen Sophie Jensdatter born ca 1793 were. Is there a marriage record out there that mentions her father's name at all and also Elen's place of residence at that time? Arve Gundersen and Elen Sophie Jensdatter married 18 Oct 1818 in Krageroen, Glemmen. Their 4 children were all born at Krogeroen -> Gunder on 19 dec 1818, Maren on 12 nov 1820, Gunhild Maria on 9 sep 1822 and Jacobine on 2 oct 1824. Searching the 1801 census there is only 1 possibility going by Elen's age in the 1865 census (estimated birth year 1893) as parents Jens Knudsen and Maria Gundersdatter with daughter Elen Jensdatter. There is however a family search entry for an Elen Sophie Jensdatter born to Jens NN and Johanne Olsdatter. Have been unable to locate a Johanne Olsdatter with a daughter named anything like Ellen, Elen, Eli, Helene Jensdatter in 1801 Census.
Any help would be fabulous.
Thankyou,
Kymm

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Re: Arve Gundersen Ambjoernsrod>Troldalen &Elen Sophi

Legg inn av gj23221 » 17. april 2015 kl. 11.24

Sorry, typo - Elen's estimated birth year should have been 1793 NOT 1893.

Kymm

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Re: Arve Gundersen Ambjoernsrod>Troldalen &Elen Sophi

Legg inn av Else Berit Rustad » 17. april 2015 kl. 12.56

Norwegian scanned records are available for everyone.

Since you already know the date of the marriage between Arve and Elen Sophie, you can search for their marriage record in this book:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_id=7459

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Re: Arve Gundersen Ambjoernsrod>Troldalen &Elen Sophi

Legg inn av Geir Andreas Lysholm Dybvig » 17. april 2015 kl. 13.12

Tips on Using The Digitalarkivet in Norway

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norwa ... hives.html

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Re: Arve Gundersen Ambjoernsrod>Troldalen &Elen Sophi

Legg inn av Inger Rita Asbjørnsen » 17. april 2015 kl. 16.56

Elen Sophie Jensdatter dead 16 febr. 1881. Born 1792 RÅDE Østfold
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-19

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Re: Arve Gundersen Ambjoernsrod>Troldalen &Elen Sophi

Legg inn av Inger Rita Asbjørnsen » 18. april 2015 kl. 12.02

1865 Elen born Onsø http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft ... 7998005237
1875 Elen (Marie)born Glemmen https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SP9R-DXR
1881 Elen Sophie born Råde

Marriage 18 okt.1818, live Lunde Glemmen 11)
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-173

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Re: Arve Gundersen Ambjoernsrod>Troldalen &Elen Sophi

Legg inn av gj13833 » 19. april 2015 kl. 9.46

Hi

I'm not so good in languages, so this is translated using Google. So excuse me from any errors.

You have the right Ellen with parents; Jens Knutsen and Maria Gundersdatter. She stands not introduced in church records in Onsøy as Sophie, but it occurs error entries sometimes from priests, although it is difficult to document. But all indications are that it is correct. She uses a couple of hers siblings as godparents and they her. Moving between farms in Onsøy and Råde, also later Glemmen and Kråkerøy. Her parents also die in Råde. Jens Knutsen on Kihl østre (Kihl eastern) 5. June 1835 and his mother Maria Gundersdatter 9. April 1827 Kihl østre, a farm her grandmother also comes from.
You've probably been through the farm book from Glemmen and Arves family unless it begins here; http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/603d1bf3b4e93 ... ang=no#527
It also says about Arves father and brother in the book from Kråkerøy and farm Lunde. Arves own children was born there. A farm his father bought; http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/037f98661b464 ... ang=no#559
It also about Arves acknowledged in something called Engelsviken slekt (Generations), but it is not digitized. Also in a family book called; Hans Nielsen Hauge and his family, that not are digitized. He was a famous reformer in Norway
I have Ellen in my data file when one of her descendants is the wife of my friend and Arve I'm related to. His grandfather Hans Guttormsen Evenrød with his wife Margrethe Sophie Guttormsdatter are my ancestors too.
If you will have information, please send me a PM.

Regard Jan Erik Hansen

I forgot to tell that Ellen moves from Kvernhuset in Råde to Ambjørnrød in Glemmen on November 5th 1814. Kvernhuset is a place under Kihl, which reinforces that it is right Ellen. See no. 3. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 040166.jpg

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Re: Arve Gundersen Ambjoernsrod>Troldalen &Elen Sophi

Legg inn av gj23221 » 22. april 2015 kl. 8.49

Hi, Thankyou for all that information. I have tried to pm you but I don't know if it is working. I would love as much information as you are willing to share please!! I descend from Arve Gundersen and Elen Sophie Jensdatter's daughter Maren who married Martin Christian Jacobsen Myre. Their son Jacob Martinsen arrived in New Zealand aged 18.
He was a crewman of a ship and jumped ship in Lyttleton, Christchurch. Because he didn't want to get caught he swapped his name around to Martin Jacobsen, however was caught anyway, so changed name back to Jacob Martinsen.
He was naturalised in Norsewood on 18 May, 1886, and was working as a mill hand at the time.
Jacob began the first sawmill and flourmill industries at Norsewood in 1888.

Kymm

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