Anders Larsen f. 1710 - Kjølstad

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Anders Larsen f. 1710 - Kjølstad

Legg inn av gj04380 » 10. mars 2015 kl. 18.44

I am trying to find if Anders Larsen Kjølstad born abt 1710 is the son of Lars Auensen Gulsrud born abt 1675. He also went under the name Lars Auensen Kjølstad. Does someone have access to the Modum Bygdebok who could look under the farm Kjølstad. I have looked under the farm Gulsrud, but it doesn't give the descendants of Lars Auensen.

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Re: Anders Larsen f. 1710 - Kjølstad

Legg inn av Kjell Halvorsen » 11. mars 2015 kl. 11.11

Hi Robert,

I've skimmed thru 'Modums Historie' on farm Kjølstad without finding Lars Auensen or Anders Larsen mentioned there.

Unfortunately the Census of 1701 for Modum has not been kept. However, when the heirs was mentioned after the death of Lars Auensens mother at farm Gulsrud - Siri Olsdatter - in the Probate Court protocol Oct 10 1702, it is stated that Lars Auensen at that time was living at Kjølstad, see the attached. This may be considered a primary source.

Another indication of the family ties between Lars Auensen Kjølstad and Anders Larsen as father and son is that when Anders Larsen was married to Sønnouv Pedersdatter Jul 5 1731, he was living at Kjølstad Eye.

Also an indication on Lars Auensen's family of 1711 would be possible to find in the records from the extra taxation of that year. Likewise for the land register of 1723, but that would require a dive into the archives at the regional archives at Kongsberg.

Kjell H.
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Re: Anders Larsen f. 1710 - Kjølstad

Legg inn av Kjell Halvorsen » 11. mars 2015 kl. 14.10

Probably Lars Auensens wife, dead primo 1732, buried from Heggen church Apr 2nd 1732 at the age of 74 years 10 months, # 15 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-296

'd: 2 Aprilis ved Heggen K: Lars Oudensøn Kjølstad ejes qvinde Karen Niels daatter 74 aar og 10 maaneder gl:'

The patronym Auensen was written in different ways back then, Oudensøn being one of them :wink:

If this is old news to you, just ignore it.

Kjell H.

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Re: Anders Larsen f. 1710 - Kjølstad

Legg inn av gj04380 » 11. mars 2015 kl. 15.39

Tusen takk Kjell. This is great news. I did not know any of this. I received a DNA match with a man descended from Anders Larsen Kjølstad. He does not know who was the father of Anders Larsen. I suspect it is Lars Auensen who was related to me. But I have no information on his descendants. This may be the breakthrough we need.

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Re: Anders Larsen f. 1710 - Kjølstad

Legg inn av Kjell Halvorsen » 11. mars 2015 kl. 21.29

Lars Ouensen Kjølstad's father - Oven Truelsen - died at Gulsrud probably in 1709. The Probate Court protocol of Aug 9 1709 show his heirs from two marriages, first stating his children when married to Siri Olsdatter. Lars Ouensen was still living at Kjølstad, see the attached. It is later stated that his take was a little more than 45 riksdaler, included in which some of the more valuable items were 2 cows, 2 sheep and a couple of Flandern bedclothings.

http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/23799/6/ page 343b
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Re: Anders Larsen f. 1710 - Kjølstad

Legg inn av Kjell Halvorsen » 11. mars 2015 kl. 22.48

Widower Lars Ouvesen from Rolighed Kjølstad eje was buried from Heggen church Apr 22 1742, age 77 years and 10 months, # 57 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-349

Year of birth approx 1665 :?:

Kjell H.

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Re: Anders Larsen f. 1710 - Kjølstad

Legg inn av Kjell Halvorsen » 11. mars 2015 kl. 23.27

The first child of Anders Larsen Kjølstad and Sønnov Pedersdatter that I have noted was Kari, christened in Heggen church Nov 2 1732, # 83 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-144

Following the naming tradition the first child would normally be given the name of one of its fathers parents, depending on the child's gender. So any variation over Karen would do, which in this case builds an even stronger case of the family ties that Lars Ouensen Kjølstad was father of Anders Larsen Kjølstad.

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Re: Anders Larsen f. 1710 - Kjølstad

Legg inn av gj04380 » 19. mars 2015 kl. 19.10

This continues to look interesting. I believe you are correct about the parents of Anders Larsen Kjølstad.

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Re: Anders Larsen f. 1710 - Kjølstad

Legg inn av Inger Karin Haarbye » 19. mars 2015 kl. 20.56

I'm 98% (?) sure that Anders Larsen Kjølstad is son of Lars Ouensen Kjølstad. I wish I had proof... Lars Auensen Kjølstad died in Rolighed 1742. That was a small place under farm Kjølstad, with only a few families.
All 4 children of Anders Larsen and Sønnøv Pedersdatter is born at Kjølstad(eie), but when Kari b. 1732 and Christen (my ancestor) b. 1744 were babtized, they lived at Kjølstad-eie (no name on the place). When Lars (1738) and Peder (1741) were babtized, they lived at Rolighed!
I believe they lived at Rolighed all the time, and that all the children were born there.

This is my fathers line. What is very interesting for me: I (my brother) got a match on Y-67 FTDNA (6 difference) with a person in Canada with ancestors back to Brunes, the neighbor farm. That could indicate that Ouen Flannum and Ouen Trulsen Gulsrud has common (Y-DNA) ancestor. Ouen Trulsen's father is Truls Ouensen Disen b. ab. 1604, Ouen Flannums father is unknown - as far as i know.

Here is Anders Larsen in my Webtree: http://slekt.cactuz.org/webtrees/indivi ... slekt1.ged
(Sorry, but the notes is in Norwegian...)

I don't think probate record for Lars Ouensen Kjølstad exists. If anybody has more evidence about theese family connections, I'm very interested! :)

Arkivverkets forum:
http://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/19302 ... -larsen-kjølstad-f-før-1710-hvor-kommer-han-fra-farslinje-og-y-dna/
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Re: Anders Larsen f. 1710 - Kjølstad

Legg inn av Inger Karin Haarbye » 3. desember 2016 kl. 19.26

Anders Larsen was Lars Ouensen's son. They lived at Roligheden, Kjølstad in Modum. Peder Andersen lived at Rolighed too (probably after Lars Ouensen died). (I don't know if he is a relative...). He died in 1759, and a probate record states the relationship between Anders Larsen and Lars Ouensen. Lars Ouensen was married to Karen Nielsdatter (her second marriage), children: Anders Larsen, Christen Larsen and Anne Larsdatter (died 1734).

https://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/2054 ... ouensen-kjølstad-ca-1664-1742-og-kona-karen-nielsdatter-ca-1657-1732/

https://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/2054 ... 9-i-modum/

Peder Andersen's probate:

Buskerud fylke, Eiker, Modum og Sigdal, Skifteprotokoll nr. 12b (1758-1761), Skifteprotokollside, Side 349b-350a
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/sk20081027660128
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 660128.jpg
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