Lookup request Ancestry.com - 1920 Census

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Ed Criscuolo

Lookup request Ancestry.com - 1920 Census

Legg inn av Ed Criscuolo » 20. februar 2008 kl. 22.59

Could someone with an Ancestry.com account please lookup
Gordon Criscuolo in the 1920 census and tell me the
Series, Roll, and Page numbers, and/or the street address
and enumeration district and ward?

I have access to the scanned census pages thru HeritageQuest,
but their 1920 index does not include all names. I just need
enough info so that I can locate the correct sheet using
HeritageQuest's browse function.

Thanks in advance.

@(^.^)@ Ed

Huntersglenn

Re: Lookup request Ancestry.com - 1920 Census

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 20. februar 2008 kl. 23.10

I found only one hit:

Year: 1920;Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 1, Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania; Roll: T625_1614; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 36

I know that on some of the other census records, Heritage Quest keeps
track of the page numbers differently than does ancestry, so if you go
to that page and don't find him, don't stop looking. He's there.

He's shown as follows:
Porreca, Walter, Head, 39, born Italy
Theresa, wife, 35, born PA, parents born Italy
Criscuolo, Henry, son, 17, born PA, father born Italy, mother born PA
Eleanore, daughter, 15, born PA, father born Italy, mother born PA
Edith, daughter, 12, born PA, father born Italy, mother born PA
Evelyn, daughter, 9, born PA, father born Italy, mother born PA
Gordon, son, 3 8/12, born PA, father born Italy, mother born PA

All of the children have Criscuolo as their surname.

The family is living at 1229 Ferhoh or Fermom Street

Cathy


Ed Criscuolo wrote:
Could someone with an Ancestry.com account please lookup
Gordon Criscuolo in the 1920 census and tell me the
Series, Roll, and Page numbers, and/or the street address
and enumeration district and ward?

I have access to the scanned census pages thru HeritageQuest,
but their 1920 index does not include all names. I just need
enough info so that I can locate the correct sheet using
HeritageQuest's browse function.

Thanks in advance.

@(^.^)@ Ed

Ed Criscuolo

Re: Lookup request Ancestry.com - 1920 Census

Legg inn av Ed Criscuolo » 21. februar 2008 kl. 5.29

Huntersglenn wrote:
I found only one hit:

Year: 1920;Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 1, Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania; Roll: T625_1614; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 36

I know that on some of the other census records, Heritage Quest keeps
track of the page numbers differently than does ancestry, so if you go
to that page and don't find him, don't stop looking. He's there.

He's shown as follows:
Porreca, Walter, Head, 39, born Italy
Theresa, wife, 35, born PA, parents born Italy
Criscuolo, Henry, son, 17, born PA, father born Italy, mother born PA
Eleanore, daughter, 15, born PA, father born Italy, mother born PA
Edith, daughter, 12, born PA, father born Italy, mother born PA
Evelyn, daughter, 9, born PA, father born Italy, mother born PA
Gordon, son, 3 8/12, born PA, father born Italy, mother born PA

All of the children have Criscuolo as their surname.

The family is living at 1229 Ferhoh or Fermom Street

Cathy


Thanks Cathy for the quick response! I found the sheet with no
problem. The presence of a stepfather does complicate things a bit.
Since the youngest is only 3 8/12 years old and has the Criscuolo
name, the remarriage should have been within that time span. So
the 1910 census should have the birth father. But I can't seem
to find _any_ members of the family listed in in Ancestry's 1910 index.

@(^.^)@ Ed

Huntersglenn

Re: Lookup request Ancestry.com - 1920 Census

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 21. februar 2008 kl. 6.23

Ed Criscuolo wrote:
Thanks Cathy for the quick response! I found the sheet with no
problem. The presence of a stepfather does complicate things a bit.
Since the youngest is only 3 8/12 years old and has the Criscuolo
name, the remarriage should have been within that time span. So
the 1910 census should have the birth father. But I can't seem
to find _any_ members of the family listed in in Ancestry's 1910 index.

@(^.^)@ Ed

They're indexed as Chriscuola:
Year: 1910; Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 26, Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania; Roll: T624_1400; Page: 6B; Enumeration District: 579;

Father is Lawrence, and it shows that he and Teresa have been married
for 8 years. By 1910, she'd had 4 children, but only 3 were still
living: Henry, Eleanor, and Edith. It looks as if Lawrence immigrated
in 1880, and was naturalized.

Cathy

Ed Criscuolo

Re: Lookup request Ancestry.com - 1920 Census

Legg inn av Ed Criscuolo » 21. februar 2008 kl. 20.24

Huntersglenn wrote:
They're indexed as Chriscuola:
Year: 1910; Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 26, Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania; Roll: T624_1400; Page: 6B; Enumeration District: 579;

Father is Lawrence, and it shows that he and Teresa have been married
for 8 years. By 1910, she'd had 4 children, but only 3 were still
living: Henry, Eleanor, and Edith. It looks as if Lawrence immigrated
in 1880, and was naturalized.

Cathy


Thanks once again for your speedy and helpful response!
Again, I found the census image with no problem.

Laurence's age of 30 puts him born about 1880, the same
year as his immigration! Must have come over as an infant
with his parents or his mother. Since this date is
pre-Ellis Island, I tried looking up him and his parents on
castlegarden.org using Steve Morse's wonderful search pages,
but had no luck.

@(^.^)@ Ed

Huntersglenn

Re: Lookup request Ancestry.com - 1920 Census

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 21. februar 2008 kl. 21.23

Ed Criscuolo wrote:
Thanks once again for your speedy and helpful response!
Again, I found the census image with no problem.

Laurence's age of 30 puts him born about 1880, the same
year as his immigration! Must have come over as an infant
with his parents or his mother. Since this date is
pre-Ellis Island, I tried looking up him and his parents on
castlegarden.org using Steve Morse's wonderful search pages,
but had no luck.

@(^.^)@ Ed

I've found that immigration years as reported on the census records tend
to change from census to census. Granted, there are some people who
have the same year reported, but most of the look-ups that I've done
have different years. This could be due to faulty memory, or due to
someone other than the immigrant giving the information - in this case,
it could have been Theresa giving the information for her husband (which
I'm kinda leaning toward since Lawrence doesn't sound very Italian to
me, and I would have expected him to give his name in its Italian
version, and not as the English version).

He could have been born enroute, or born shortly after arriving, but
always thought he was born in Italy. I tried looking for him in the
1900 census, but am having no luck, at least with Pennsylvania. I was
going to try again later today with a U.S. wide search, in case the
family was first in New York, Boston or one of the other port cities.

Cathy

Ed Criscuolo

Re: Lookup request Ancestry.com - 1920 Census

Legg inn av Ed Criscuolo » 21. februar 2008 kl. 22.47

Huntersglenn wrote:
I've found that immigration years as reported on the census records tend
to change from census to census. Granted, there are some people who
have the same year reported, but most of the look-ups that I've done
have different years. This could be due to faulty memory, or due to
someone other than the immigrant giving the information ...

I've seen that too. Can never put too much significance on that one date.

........................... Lawrence doesn't sound very Italian to
me, and I would have expected him to give his name in its Italian
version, and not as the English version).

Good point. I went back to castlegarden.org and found one entry for
Lorenzo Criscuolo, age 2, arriving 3-May-1882 on the ship Vincenzo
Florio. Two years old in 1882 is consistent with an 1880 birthdate.
Does Ancestry have the manifest images for Castle Garden in their
NY Passenger Lists? Would like to see who he was traveling with.


@(^.^)@ Ed

Huntersglenn

Re: Lookup request Ancestry.com - 1920 Census

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 21. februar 2008 kl. 23.41

Ed Criscuolo wrote:

Good point. I went back to castlegarden.org and found one entry for
Lorenzo Criscuolo, age 2, arriving 3-May-1882 on the ship Vincenzo
Florio. Two years old in 1882 is consistent with an 1880 birthdate.
Does Ancestry have the manifest images for Castle Garden in their
NY Passenger Lists? Would like to see who he was traveling with.


@(^.^)@ Ed

Yes, there's a manifest image for Lorenzo. He's with two other
Criscuolo children, but I can't make out their first names, even having
the image multiplied 200%. There's an 11 year old boy, and a 6 year old
girl, but no adult Criscuolos on that page. Ancestry's index gives
their names as Enrico and Adele. The manifest appears to be in
alphabetical order.

Here's the citation for finding the manifest at ancestry:
Year: 1882; Arrival: New York , United States; Microfilm serial: M237;
Microfilm roll: M237_450; Line: 9; List number: 568.

Cathy

Ed Criscuolo

Re: Lookup request Ancestry.com - 1920 Census

Legg inn av Ed Criscuolo » 22. februar 2008 kl. 18.05

Huntersglenn wrote:
Ed Criscuolo wrote:


Good point. I went back to castlegarden.org and found one entry for
Lorenzo Criscuolo, age 2, arriving 3-May-1882 on the ship Vincenzo
Florio. Two years old in 1882 is consistent with an 1880 birthdate.
Does Ancestry have the manifest images for Castle Garden in their
NY Passenger Lists? Would like to see who he was traveling with.


@(^.^)@ Ed

Yes, there's a manifest image for Lorenzo. He's with two other
Criscuolo children, but I can't make out their first names, even having
the image multiplied 200%. There's an 11 year old boy, and a 6 year old
girl, but no adult Criscuolos on that page. Ancestry's index gives
their names as Enrico and Adele. The manifest appears to be in
alphabetical order.

Here's the citation for finding the manifest at ancestry:
Year: 1882; Arrival: New York , United States; Microfilm serial: M237;
Microfilm roll: M237_450; Line: 9; List number: 568.

Cathy


Looks like the immigration records are a dead-end, as the
Castle Garden manifest simply gives "Italy" as the origin
and does not name a town.

I guess one place left to look is the naturalization records.
The 1910 census showed Lorenzo/Laurence as naturalized. Since
there is a 5-year residency requirement, the naturalization
must have occurred somewhere between 1887 and 1910.
If it's after 1906, it'll be in the federal records and have
a lot of information, including birth town. If its before that,
it'll be in the state or county court records and may not have
much info.

@(^.^)@ Ed

Tara

Re: Lookup request Ancestry.com - 1920 Census

Legg inn av Tara » 22. februar 2008 kl. 22.33

"Ed Criscuolo" <ed.criscuolo@nospam.gsfc.nasa.gov> wrote in message
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Looks like the immigration records are a dead-end, as the
Castle Garden manifest simply gives "Italy" as the origin
and does not name a town.

I guess one place left to look is the naturalization records.
The 1910 census showed Lorenzo/Laurence as naturalized. Since
there is a 5-year residency requirement, the naturalization
must have occurred somewhere between 1887 and 1910.
If it's after 1906, it'll be in the federal records and have
a lot of information, including birth town. If its before that,
it'll be in the state or county court records and may not have
much info.

@(^.^)@ Ed

You didn't say whether you'd looked at the 1900 census. At least it gives
you a few more names to try and track back to a town of origin.

Name: Lawrence Cusenolo
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 26,
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Roll: T623 1468; Page: 2B; Enumeration District:
620.

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Huntersglenn

Re: Lookup request Ancestry.com - 1920 Census

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 22. februar 2008 kl. 23.10

Tara wrote:
"
You didn't say whether you'd looked at the 1900 census. At least it gives
you a few more names to try and track back to a town of origin.

Name: Lawrence Cusenolo
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 26,
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Roll: T623 1468; Page: 2B; Enumeration District:
620.

I had attempted to look in the 1900, but that spelling was not one that

I thought about, and the soundex option was giving me a lot of hits.
And, this might sound fanciful, but I swear that there are times when
I'll do a search in ancestry and NOT find a person, then go back a day
or so later, do the same search, and the person pops up. Or, I'll end
up finding the spouse, or a sibling or parent, and see that the original
person that I was looking for is there in the household, WITH the
spelling I used, and indexed that way, but ancestry still will not give
me that same result in a search.

Thanks,
Cathy

Ed Criscuolo

Re: Lookup request Ancestry.com - 1920 Census

Legg inn av Ed Criscuolo » 23. februar 2008 kl. 1.25

Tara wrote:
You didn't say whether you'd looked at the 1900 census. At least it gives
you a few more names to try and track back to a town of origin.

Name: Lawrence Cusenolo
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 26,
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Roll: T623 1468; Page: 2B; Enumeration District:
620.


Wow, thanks Tara! That spelling is so far off the mark! But it's
a great find, because it's Lawrence's _parent's_ family, and now
I've got his parents names (Catello and Mary) and his five siblings.
And the names and ages of his two elder sibs match the names and
ages of the two other Criscuolo children that castlegarden.org
shows traveling on the same ship as Lawrence/Lorenzo in 1882, so
it's further confirmation.

Thanks again!

@(^.^)@ Ed

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