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singhals

Sweeping Genealization needed (g)

Legg inn av singhals » 16. februar 2008 kl. 3.08

The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of
Maryland. X signs a will as witness; the estate is probated
in 1710.

Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the
ages of 14 and dead? Or did he have to be 16?

I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow
down the number of parish registers I need to look at.

Cheryl

Sherlock Holmes

Re: Sweeping Genealization needed (g)

Legg inn av Sherlock Holmes » 16. februar 2008 kl. 4.34

singhals wrote:
The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of Maryland.
X signs a will as witness; the estate is probated in 1710.

Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the ages of 14
and dead? Or did he have to be 16?

I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow down the
number of parish registers I need to look at.

Cheryl
Hi Cheryl,

If X signed the will as a witness then X would be alive at the time of
signing the will as a witness and could be alive long after the will was
probated as X was a Witness and was not the person who the will was for
as they are a witness to the person whom the will was for and that
person would have signed the will as well.
X the witness to the will could have been the Law firms clerk.

So do not Ass U Me anything.


David

Huntersglenn

Re: Sweeping Genealization needed (g)

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 16. februar 2008 kl. 5.09

Sherlock Holmes wrote:
singhals wrote:


The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of
Maryland. X signs a will as witness; the estate is probated in 1710.

Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the ages of
14 and dead? Or did he have to be 16?

I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow down the
number of parish registers I need to look at.

Cheryl

Hi Cheryl,
If X signed the will as a witness then X would be alive at the time of
signing the will as a witness and could be alive long after the will was
probated as X was a Witness and was not the person who the will was for
as they are a witness to the person whom the will was for and that
person would have signed the will as well.
X the witness to the will could have been the Law firms clerk.

So do not Ass U Me anything.

I think you misread what was written. Not that X was the signer of the
will, but that X was between the ages of 14 and old enough to be dead
when X witnessed the will.

Cathy

Carole Allen

Re: Sweeping Genealization needed (g)

Legg inn av Carole Allen » 16. februar 2008 kl. 5.45


Sherlock Holmes wrote:
singhals wrote:
The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of
Maryland. X signs a will as witness; the estate is probated in 1710.
Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the ages of
14 and dead? Or did he have to be 16?
I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow down the
number of parish registers I need to look at.
Cheryl

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:09:26 -0500, Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote:
Hi Cheryl,
If X signed the will as a witness then X would be alive at the time of
signing the will as a witness and could be alive long after the will was
probated as X was a Witness and was not the person who the will was for
as they are a witness to the person whom the will was for and that
person would have signed the will as well.
X the witness to the will could have been the Law firms clerk.
So do not Ass U Me anything.

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:09:26 -0500, Huntersglenn

<huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote:
I think you misread what was written. Not that X was the signer of the
will, but that X was between the ages of 14 and old enough to be dead
when X witnessed the will.
Cathy

I think the point of the OP's question was: does X have to be 16 to
witness a will? Or is 14 considered legally adequate for that
purpose? She's obviously looking for records about X, she knows who X
is, she obviously doesn't want to search an extra 2 years of parish
records if she doesn't have to. Right, Cheryl?

Graeme Wall

Re: Sweeping Genealization needed (g)

Legg inn av Graeme Wall » 16. februar 2008 kl. 9.56

In message <3mttj.1559$f8.574@newsfe23.lga>
Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote:


Sherlock Holmes wrote:
singhals wrote:


The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of
Maryland. X signs a will as witness; the estate is probated in 1710.

Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the ages of
14 and dead? Or did he have to be 16?

I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow down the
number of parish registers I need to look at.

Cheryl

Hi Cheryl,
If X signed the will as a witness then X would be alive at the time of
signing the will as a witness and could be alive long after the will was
probated as X was a Witness and was not the person who the will was for
as they are a witness to the person whom the will was for and that
person would have signed the will as well.
X the witness to the will could have been the Law firms clerk.

So do not Ass U Me anything.

I think you misread what was written. Not that X was the signer of the
will, but that X was between the ages of 14 and old enough to be dead
when X witnessed the will.


The normal criteria is that the witness is old enough to understand what
he/she is signing. In 1709 a 14 year old would have been regarded as
virtually an adult.

--
Graeme Wall

My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy>

singhals

Re: Sweeping Genealization needed (g)

Legg inn av singhals » 16. februar 2008 kl. 16.47

Carole Allen wrote:

Sherlock Holmes wrote:

singhals wrote:

The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of
Maryland. X signs a will as witness; the estate is probated in 1710.
Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the ages of
14 and dead? Or did he have to be 16?
I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow down the
number of parish registers I need to look at.
Cheryl

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:09:26 -0500, Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote:
Hi Cheryl,

If X signed the will as a witness then X would be alive at the time of
signing the will as a witness and could be alive long after the will was
probated as X was a Witness and was not the person who the will was for
as they are a witness to the person whom the will was for and that
person would have signed the will as well.
X the witness to the will could have been the Law firms clerk.
So do not Ass U Me anything.

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:09:26 -0500, Huntersglenn
huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote:

I think you misread what was written. Not that X was the signer of the
will, but that X was between the ages of 14 and old enough to be dead
when X witnessed the will.
Cathy


I think the point of the OP's question was: does X have to be 16 to
witness a will? Or is 14 considered legally adequate for that
purpose? She's obviously looking for records about X, she knows who X
is, she obviously doesn't want to search an extra 2 years of parish
records if she doesn't have to. Right, Cheryl?



Bingo.

Thanks.

Cheryl

Ace

Re: Sweeping Genealization needed (g)

Legg inn av Ace » 16. februar 2008 kl. 21.15

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
news:grOdnf5apZ4r2CvanZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@rcn.net...
The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of
Maryland. X signs a will as witness; the estate is probated in
1710.

Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the ages of
14 and dead? Or did he have to be 16?

I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow down the
number of parish registers I need to look at.

Cheryl

http://mdcourts.gov/lawlib/

This would be a good place to ask what the legal age was in 1709. Or
write to a Maryland congress critter, or the state's law library.

Brad Rogers

Re: Sweeping Genealization needed (g)

Legg inn av Brad Rogers » 16. februar 2008 kl. 21.39

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:34:26 +1300, Sherlock Holmes wrote:

X the witness to the will could have been the Law firms clerk

Highly unlikely; A law clerk would undoubtedly be able to sign his name.

--
Regards _
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/ _)rad never immediately apparent"

Life goes quick and it goes without warning
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ecunningham

Re: Sweeping Genealization needed (g)

Legg inn av ecunningham » 16. februar 2008 kl. 21.39

singhals wrote:
The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of Maryland.
X signs a will as witness; the estate is probated in 1710.

Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the ages of 14
and dead? Or did he have to be 16?

I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow down the
number of parish registers I need to look at.

Cheryl: How do we know that X is X and not Xx with the same name? Is a
relationship listed?
(Just wanted to be clear--VBG)
ecunnningham@att.net

Graham

Re: Sweeping Genealization needed (g)

Legg inn av Graham » 16. februar 2008 kl. 21.58

"Sherlock Holmes" <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:1203132461.63824@ftpsrv1...
singhals wrote:

The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of Maryland. X
signs a will as witness; the estate is probated in 1710.

Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the ages of 14
and dead? Or did he have to be 16?

I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow down the
number of parish registers I need to look at.

Cheryl
Hi Cheryl,
If X signed the will as a witness then X would be alive at the time of
signing the will as a witness and could be alive long after the will was
probated as X was a Witness and was not the person who the will was for as
they are a witness to the person whom the will was for and that person
would have signed the will as well.
X the witness to the will could have been the Law firms clerk.

So do not Ass U Me anything.


David

Well I thought it was funny anyway...

Graham

singhals

Re: Sweeping Genealization needed (g)

Legg inn av singhals » 17. februar 2008 kl. 16.36

ecunningham wrote:

singhals wrote:


The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of
Maryland. X signs a will as witness; the estate is probated in 1710.

Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the ages of
14 and dead? Or did he have to be 16?

I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow down the
number of parish registers I need to look at.


Cheryl: How do we know that X is X and not Xx with the same name? Is a
relationship listed?
(Just wanted to be clear--VBG)
ecunnningham@att.net



(G) To be honest, I don't give a hoot WHO he is, just how
old he is. (g)

Cheryl

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